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Do you consider the book
to be autobiographical?
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Well, I mean...
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isn't everything autobiographical?
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I mean, we all see the world
through our own tiny keyhole, right?
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I mean, I always think
of Thomas Wolfe.
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Have you ever seen that little
one-page "Note to Reader"...
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in the front
of Look Homeward, Angel?
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Anyway, he says that we are the sum
of all the moments of our lives...
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and anybody who sits down to write
will use the clay of their own life...
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that you can't avoid that.
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So when I look at my own life,
I have to admit, right, that I...
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I've never been around a bunch of guns
or violence, you know, not really.
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No political intrigue
or a helicopter crash, right?
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But my life, from my own point of view,
has been full of drama, right?
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And so I thought,
if I could write a book...
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that could capture what it's like
to really meet somebody...
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One of the most exciting things
that's happened to me...
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is to meet somebody,
make that connection.
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And if I could make that valuable,
you know, to capture that...
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that would be the attempt, or...
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Did I answer your question?
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I'll try to be more specific.
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Was there ever a French young woman
on a train you met...
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and spent an evening with?
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See, to me, that... I mean...
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that's not important, you know?
- So that's a yes?
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All right, since I'm in France and this
is the last stop of my book tour, yes.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Wallace, the book ends
on an ambiguous note.
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We don't know.
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Do you think they get back together
in six months...
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like they promise each other?
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Like they promised?
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I think how you answer that,
you know, is...
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It's a good test, right,
if you're a romantic or a cynic.
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Right? I mean, you think
they get back together, right?
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- You don't, for sure.
- No.
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And you hope they do,
but you're not sure.
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- That's why you're asking the question.
- Do you think they get back together?
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I mean, did you in real life?
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Did I in real...?
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Look, in the words
of my grandfather, okay:
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"To answer that would take
the piss out of the whole thing".
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We just have the time
for one last question.
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What is your next book?
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I don't know, man. I don't know.
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I've been...
I've been thinking about this...
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Well, I always kind of wanted
to write a book...
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that all took place
within the space of a pop song.
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Like three or four minutes long,
the whole thing.
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The story, the idea,
is that there's this guy, right...
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and he's totally depressed.
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His great dream was to be a lover,
an adventurer, you know...
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riding motorcycles
through South America.
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And instead he's sitting
at a marble table eating lobster.
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He's got a good job and
a beautiful wife, right, but that...
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Everything that he needs.
But that doesn't matter...
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because what he wants
is to fight for meaning.
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You know? Happiness
is in the doing, right?
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Not in the getting what you want.
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So he's sitting there,
and just that second...
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his little 5-year-old daughter
hops up on the table.
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And he knows that she should
get down, because she could get hurt.
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But she's dancing to this pop song
in a summer dress.
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And he looks down...
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and all of a sudden, he's 16.
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And his high-school sweetheart
is dropping him off at home.
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And they just lost their virginity,
and she loves him...
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and the same song is playing
on the car radio.
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And she climbs up and starts dancing
on the roof of the car.
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And now he's worried about her.
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And she's beautiful, with a facial
expression just like his daughter's.
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In fact, maybe that's why
he even likes her.
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You see, he knows he's not
remembering this dance...
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he's there. He's there,
in both moments, simultaneously.
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And just for an instant,
all his life is just folding in on itself.
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And it's obvious to him
that time is a lie.
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That it's all happening all the time...
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and inside every moment
is another moment...
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all happening simultaneously.
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Anyway, that's kind of the idea.
Anyway.
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Our author has to be going
to the airport soon...
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so thank you all very much
for coming over this afternoon.
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And a special thanks to Mr. Wallace
for being with us.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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We hope to see you here again
with your next book.
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Thank you all. How much longer
before I have to go to the airport?
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Oh, you should leave at 7:30...
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- Seven-thirty at the very latest.
- Okay.
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- Hi.
- Hello.
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- How are you?
- Good, and you?
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I'm good, yeah, I'm great. I'm...
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Do you wanna, maybe,
get a cup of coffee?
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Didn't he just say
you have a plane to catch?
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Yeah. But, I mean, I have a little time.
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- Okay.
- Yeah? All right, well, let me...
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I'll meet you outside. Okay.
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Excuse me. I'm just gonna go
get a cup of coffee.
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- I'll be back at 7:15.
- Did you sign all these?
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- Yeah, I sure did.
- Get your driver Philippe's card...
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so you can call his cell
if you're running late.
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We'll put your bags in the car
so you're not late.
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- All right, thanks for everything.
- Thank you.
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Which one's Philippe?
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- I can't believe you're here.
- I live here in Paris.
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Are you sure you don't have to stay?
You're not supposed to talk more?
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They're sick of me.
I spent the night here.
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- You did?
- Yeah, they got a loft upstairs.
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- How are you? This is so weird.
- I'm fine.
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- It's good to see you.
- It's good to see you.
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- So you want to go to a café?
- Yeah.
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Okay. There's one a little further
that I like.
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I thought I was gonna totally lose it
in there when I first saw you.
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How did you know
I was gonna be here?
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It's my favorite bookstore in Paris.
You can sit down for hours and read.
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I love it. There's fleas,
but, you know...
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I know. I think a cat slept
on my head last night.
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I saw your picture on the calendar
about a month ago...
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and that you were going
to be here.
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It's funny, because I read an article
on your book...
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and it sounded vaguely familiar.
- Vaguely? Yeah.
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But I didn't put it all together
until I saw your photo. So...
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Did you have a chance to read it?
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Yes, I...
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I was really, really surprised,
as you can imagine.
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I mean, I had to read it twice, actually.
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- Yeah?
- Yeah.
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No, I liked it. It's very romantic.
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I usually don't like that,
but it's really well-written.
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- It's well-written. Congratulations.
- All right. Thank you.
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- Wait.
- What?
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Before we go anywhere,
I have to ask you...
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Sure. What?
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Did you show up in Vienna
that December?
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- Did you?
- No, I couldn't. But did you?
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- I need to know. It's important to me.
- Why, if you didn't?
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Well, did you?
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No.
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Thank God you didn't.
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- Oh, my God.
- Thank God you didn't.
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Thank God I didn't and you didn't.
If one of us had showed up alone...
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that would have sucked.
- I was so concerned.
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I felt horrible about not being there,
but I couldn't. My grandma died...
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and she was buried that day,
December 6th.
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- The one in Budapest?
- Yes. You remember that?
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- I remember everything.
- Of course, it was in your book.
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But anyway, I was about to
fly to Vienna, you know...
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and we heard the news about her,
and of course I had to go to the funeral.
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Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
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I know. But you weren't there anyway.
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Wait. Why weren't you there?
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I would have been there
if I could have. I made plans...
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You better have a good reason.
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What?
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Oh, no.
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No, you were there, weren't you?
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Oh, no, that's terrible!
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I'm laughing, but I don't mean it.
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Did you hate me?
You must've hated me.
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- Have you been hating me all this time?
- No.
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- Yes, you have.
- No.
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But you can't hate me now, right?
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- I mean, my grandma...
- I don't hate you. It's no big deal.
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I flew all the way over there,
you blew the thing off.
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My life's been a big nosedive since,
but it's not a problem.
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- No, I'm kidding.
- Don't say that. I can't believe it.
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You must have been so angry
with me. I'm so sorry.
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I wanted to be there,
more than anything in the world.
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- Honestly, I swear...
- You can't be angry, my grandmother...
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I know. I honestly thought that something
like that might have happened.
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I was definitely bummed, but...
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Mostly I was mad we hadn't exchanged
any phone numbers or any information.
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That was so stupid.
No way to get in touch.
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- Nothing to go on.
- I didn't know your last name.
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Remember, we were both afraid
if we started writing and calling...
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that it would slowly fade out.
- It definitely wasn't a slow fade.
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No, it sure wasn't.
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We wanted to pick up
where we left off.
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Which would have been fine
if it had worked. Oh, well.
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So...
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- How long were you in Vienna, then?
- Just a couple days.
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Did you meet another girl?
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Yeah, her name was Gretchen
and she was amazing.
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The book's really a composite
of the two of you.
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No, I'm kidding. You wouldn't believe...
I even went back to the train station.
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I put up signs of my number
in the hotel in case you'd been delayed.
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- I was a total dork.
- Let's go this way. Did you get any calls?
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Just a couple hookers
looking for a gig.
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No, it was awful, I mean,
what do you want me to say?
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It's so sad. I'm so sorry.
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I walked around for a couple days.
Eventually, I flew home.
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I owed my dad 2000 bucks...
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who had warned me
about French chicks.
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What did he tell you
about French women?
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Nothing. He's never met
any French women.
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He's never been
east of the Mississippi.
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Why didn't you put, "Six months later,
the French bitch didn't show up"?
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No, but I did, I did.
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- You did?
- Yeah. No. I made it more hopeful.
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I wrote this fictional version
where you do show up.
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- Oh, what happens?
- Well...
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What?
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We make love for about 10 days straight,
that's one part of it.
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- Interesting. So the French slut, right?
- Yeah, exactly.
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It's just then they get
to know each other better...
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and realize they don't
get along at all.
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- I like that. It's more real.
- My editor didn't think that way.
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Everyone wants to believe in love.
It sells.
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Yeah, exactly, so...
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So things are going well for you,
right? I mean...
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- Your book is a bestseller in the U.S.
- It's a tiny bestseller.
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- Oh, come on.
- All right. Officially, yes.
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Most people haven't read Moby Dick.
Why should they read my book?
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I haven't read Moby Dick
and I liked your book.
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- Thanks.
- Even though...
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I thought you idealized
the night of it.
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Come on, it's fiction, right?
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- I'm supposed to...
- I know, I know.
219
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I know. I thought there were times
where you made me...
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Well, I mean, her, right?
No, me. Okay, whatever.
221
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- A little bit neurotic.
- You are a bit like that, aren't you?
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- You think I'm neurotic?
- No, no, no. Come on, I'm kidding.
223
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Where did I do that? I didn't do that.
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Oh, maybe it's just me, you know...
225
00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:10,016
Reading something, knowing
the character is based on you...
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it's both flattering and disturbing
at the same time.
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How is it disturbing?
228
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I don't know. Just being part
of someone else's memory.
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Seeing myself through your eyes.
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How long did it take you to write it?
231
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Three or four years, on and off.
232
00:14:27,491 --> 00:14:30,536
Wow, that's a really long time
to be writing about one night.
233
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Yeah, I know. Tell me about it.
234
00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:36,209
I always assumed
you had forgotten me.
235
00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:39,378
No, I had a pretty clear picture
of you in my mind.
236
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:41,964
- I have to tell you something. I just...
- What?
237
00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:45,885
I've wanted to talk to you for so long
that now... It's just surreal, you know?
238
00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:47,929
I feel like everything should be...
239
00:14:48,179 --> 00:14:50,473
How long do we have?
Twenty minutes and 30 seconds?
240
00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:53,017
We got more than that.
I wanna know about you.
241
00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,853
Tell me, what are you doing?
What are you up to?
242
00:14:56,145 --> 00:15:00,608
Where to start? I work for Green Cross.
It's an environmental organization.
243
00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:02,235
What are they all about?
244
00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:04,987
We basically work on different
environment issues...
245
00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,782
from clean water to
disarmament of chemical weapons.
246
00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:10,451
International laws that deal
with the environment.
247
00:15:10,701 --> 00:15:12,954
- What do you do for them?
- We're going this way.
248
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Different things.
249
00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:18,751
Like, last year I was in India for a while,
working on a water-treatment plant.
250
00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:22,922
Well, the cotton industry there
is a major source of pollution, so...
251
00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:26,008
I mean, it sounds like you're actually
doing something.
252
00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:29,637
Most people, myself included,
just sit around and bitch.
253
00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:34,433
You know, how America's consuming
all the world's resources, SUVs suck...
254
00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:36,102
global warming is real...
255
00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:39,647
I'm relieved to hear you're not one
of those "freedom fries" Americans.
256
00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,233
Hey, you know...
But how'd you get into that?
257
00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:45,695
I came out of political science,
hoping to work for the government.
258
00:15:46,028 --> 00:15:48,656
- And I did for a little while. Terrible.
- Not good?
259
00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,410
Yeah, no. Anyway, I got really tired...
Let's go this way.
260
00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,996
Having this endless conversation
with friends...
261
00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:57,415
about how the world
was falling to pieces.
262
00:15:57,707 --> 00:16:00,001
So I decided what I really
wanted to do was...
263
00:16:00,334 --> 00:16:03,504
to find things that could be fixed
and try to fix them, you know?
264
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,466
You know, I always thought you'd be
doing something cool like that. I did.
265
00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:12,555
Thanks. I just feel really, really lucky
to be doing a job I like, you know?
266
00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,348
Yeah.
267
00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:19,145
I actually alternate in between thinking
everything is irrevocably screwed up...
268
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,731
and things might be
getting better in ways.
269
00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:24,317
Better? How could you
possibly say that?
270
00:16:24,609 --> 00:16:26,319
Well, I just mean, you know, like...
271
00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:30,072
I know it sounds weird, but there are
things to be optimistic about.
272
00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:34,952
Okay... I know your book is selling,
which is great, I'm very happy for you.
273
00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,498
But let me break the news to you:
The world is a mess right now.
274
00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,250
From a Western view,
things are getting a bit better.
275
00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,962
We're moving industry to developing
nations where we can get cheap labor...
276
00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:48,424
free of any environmental laws.
The weapon industry is booming.
277
00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,594
Five million people die a year
from preventable water disease.
278
00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:54,805
How is the world getting better?
I'm not angry, I'm not angry.
279
00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:57,099
But come on, I want to know.
I'm interested.
280
00:16:57,433 --> 00:17:00,811
I realize that there are a lot
of serious problems in the world.
281
00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,272
- Okay. Thank you.
- I mean, I don't even have...
282
00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:06,859
one publisher in the Asian market.
- Okay. All right.
283
00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:10,488
- Say stop.
- What? Stop.
284
00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,534
Look, all I'm saying is there's more
awareness. People are gonna fight back.
285
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,745
The world might be getting better
because people like you...
286
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,580
are educated and speaking out.
287
00:17:20,122 --> 00:17:23,334
Even the very notion of conservation,
environmental issues...
288
00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:25,962
weren't in the vocabulary
till fairly recently.
289
00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:30,132
And they're becoming the norm and
eventually might be what's expected.
290
00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:33,302
I agree with what you're saying,
but at the same time it's dangerous.
291
00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:36,180
An imperialist country can use
that kind of thinking...
292
00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:38,558
to justify their economic greed.
293
00:17:40,101 --> 00:17:43,980
Is there any particular imperialist country
you have in mind, there, Frenchie?
294
00:17:44,313 --> 00:17:46,440
- No, not really.
- No?
295
00:17:51,946 --> 00:17:55,324
- So you wanna sit over there?
- Yeah, this is perfect.
296
00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,494
Oh, wow. Maybe what I'm saying is...
297
00:17:58,786 --> 00:18:01,581
the world might be evolving
the way a person evolves.
298
00:18:01,873 --> 00:18:04,792
Like, I mean, me, for example.
Am I getting worse?
299
00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:09,130
Am I improving? I don't know.
When I was younger, I was healthier...
300
00:18:09,463 --> 00:18:11,841
but I was wracked with insecurity,
you know?
301
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:14,594
Now I'm older and my problems
are deeper...
302
00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:16,637
but I'm more equipped
to handle them.
303
00:18:17,471 --> 00:18:19,557
So, what are your problems?
304
00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:25,479
Right now I don't have any.
I don't, you know? I'm just...
305
00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,523
damn happy to be here.
306
00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:29,525
Me too.
307
00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,780
So how long have you been in Paris?
308
00:18:35,072 --> 00:18:38,367
I got in last night.
I've done 10 cities in 2 days.
309
00:18:38,701 --> 00:18:40,912
I'm wrecked. I'm so glad it's over,
you know?
310
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:42,622
I'm tired of being a huckster.
311
00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:44,707
- Hi.
- Hello.
312
00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,459
What do you want?
313
00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:48,586
A cup of coffee.
314
00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:56,010
God, I love this café. I wish they had
places like this in the U.S.
315
00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,013
Yeah, I missed cafés
when I was living over there.
316
00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:02,058
I mean, I find a few places
I really liked, but there was...
317
00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:06,229
- You were living in the U.S.?
- Yes, from '96 to '99.
318
00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:08,105
I was studying at NYU.
319
00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:11,067
Oh, God, don't tell me that, Celine.
320
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,361
- What?
- No, it's just...
321
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,279
- Nothing, I mean, I...
- What?
322
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:18,741
I've been living in New York since '98.
We were there at the same time.
323
00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:20,618
- In New York?
- Yeah.
324
00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:25,373
That's weird. It actually crossed my mind
a few times that I might run into you...
325
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,917
but the odds are so slim, right? So...
326
00:19:28,626 --> 00:19:30,419
I didn't even know
what city you were in.
327
00:19:30,711 --> 00:19:34,090
- Weren't you somewhere in Texas?
- Yeah, yeah, definitely. I just...
328
00:19:34,423 --> 00:19:37,760
I was for a long time. I just,
you know, wanted to try New York.
329
00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:41,556
What brought you back here?
330
00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,766
I had finished my master's, for one...
331
00:19:44,058 --> 00:19:46,143
and no visa, no more visa.
332
00:19:46,477 --> 00:19:50,690
And I was starting to get paranoid.
All the violence in the medias:
333
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:54,110
Gang violence, murders,
especially serial killers...
334
00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:57,488
But the final straw was...
335
00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,533
one night I heard some noise
on my fire escape...
336
00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:03,327
so I called 911,
and the cops came eventually.
337
00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:06,956
- Like three hours later.
- Yeah, after I had been raped and killed.
338
00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:10,126
No, but it was a man
and a woman officer.
339
00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:12,378
I was explaining what I had heard...
340
00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:14,881
when the woman had
to go move the police car.
341
00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:16,757
I was left alone with the male cop.
342
00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:21,262
Right away he asked me if I had a gun,
and I said, "No, of course not".
343
00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,432
And he told me, "Well, you better
think about getting one.
344
00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:27,977
This is America, not France. Okay?"
345
00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:31,230
And I said to him, "I have no idea
how to shoot a gun...
346
00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:33,983
and I have no interest
in firearms whatsoever".
347
00:20:34,317 --> 00:20:37,945
And that's when he pulled out his gun,
like this, and he went:
348
00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:43,576
"Well, one day, you're gonna have
something like this in your face...
349
00:20:44,035 --> 00:20:46,287
and if you wanna have a long life...
350
00:20:46,954 --> 00:20:50,583
you're gonna have to choose
between you or them".
351
00:20:51,834 --> 00:20:56,047
And then they left. And the next morning
I called for an application to get a gun.
352
00:20:56,422 --> 00:20:58,799
Me with a gun.
I mean, that's really scary.
353
00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,177
But then I realized
something was wrong.
354
00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:04,847
The way that cop had pulled his gun out,
and everything, right?
355
00:21:05,223 --> 00:21:06,974
So I canceled my demand
for the gun...
356
00:21:07,225 --> 00:21:10,186
and I called the police and tried
to complain about that cop.
357
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,980
- What happened with that?
- It was so much paperwork...
358
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,983
and then I got scared,
with my shitty student visa...
359
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,611
- Thought you'd get deported?
- Exactly. I gave up...
360
00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:20,571
and forgot about the whole thing.
361
00:21:20,863 --> 00:21:24,283
- Well, I guess I never forgot.
- Obviously.
362
00:21:24,659 --> 00:21:27,078
But still, you know,
I really enjoyed being there.
363
00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:30,414
- There's lots of things I miss in the U.S.
- Yeah? Like what?
364
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,001
Well...
365
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,671
The overall good mood
people have there.
366
00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,006
Like, even if it can be
bullshit sometimes.
367
00:21:39,257 --> 00:21:41,926
Like, "How you doing?" "Great".
"How you doing?" "Great!"
368
00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:44,512
"Have a great day!"
369
00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,474
I don't know. Parisians can be
so grumpy. Have you noticed?
370
00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:51,352
No, everybody seems
pretty happy to me.
371
00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:54,981
- They're not happy. No.
- They're not happy?
372
00:21:55,273 --> 00:21:58,526
No, they are. I don't know. I just
mean French men. They drive me nuts.
373
00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:00,152
What is it? What about them?
374
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:03,447
Well, they're very nice.
They're great, you know, to be around.
375
00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,700
They love food, wine,
they're great cooks.
376
00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,869
But I've had really bad luck with them.
377
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,662
Why? What do you mean?
378
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:13,457
- Well, I guess they're not as...
- What?
379
00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:15,334
What's the word?
380
00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:19,547
- Horny? They're not as horny.
- Horny?
381
00:22:19,922 --> 00:22:24,051
Wait, listen to me on this one. In that
regard, I am proud to be an American.
382
00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:26,220
And you should be.
In that regard only.
383
00:22:27,471 --> 00:22:29,390
Have you ever spent time
in Eastern Europe?
384
00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,310
Eastern... No, I don't.
Thank you.
385
00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:35,980
I remember as a teenager
I went to Warsaw...
386
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:38,691
when it was still
a strict communist regime.
387
00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:41,235
- Which I don't approve of at all.
- Sure you don't.
388
00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:43,487
- No, I don't.
- I'm just kidding.
389
00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:46,532
But anyway, something about
being there was very interesting.
390
00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,952
After a couple of weeks,
something changed in me.
391
00:22:50,244 --> 00:22:53,289
The city was quite gloomy and gray...
392
00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:56,209
but after a while,
my brain seemed clearer.
393
00:22:56,501 --> 00:22:58,085
I was writing more
in my journal...
394
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,380
ideas I'd never thought of before...
- Communist ideas?
395
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:03,841
- Listen, I'm not...
- I'm sorry, I...
396
00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:05,801
- Okay.
- Go on.
397
00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,554
Okay. I'll send you to a gulag later.
398
00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:12,141
No. But it took me a while to figure out
why I felt so different.
399
00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:15,061
One day, as I was walking
through the Jewish cemetery...
400
00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:17,146
I don't know why,
but it occurred to me there...
401
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:21,108
I realized that I had spent the last
two weeks away from most of my habits.
402
00:23:21,442 --> 00:23:23,361
TV was in a language
I didn't understand...
403
00:23:23,611 --> 00:23:26,239
there was nothing to buy,
no advertisements anywhere...
404
00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:28,074
so all I'd been doing was...
405
00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:32,870
walk around, think, and write.
My brain felt like it was at rest...
406
00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:36,707
free from the consuming frenzy.
It was almost like a natural high.
407
00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:41,420
I felt so peaceful inside.
No strange urge to be somewhere else...
408
00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:43,130
to shop...
409
00:23:43,381 --> 00:23:45,383
It could have seemed
like boredom at first...
410
00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:47,385
but it became very, very soulful.
411
00:23:48,469 --> 00:23:49,971
It was interesting, you know?
412
00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:53,349
Can you believe it was nine years ago
we were walking around Vienna?
413
00:23:54,016 --> 00:23:57,562
- Nine years? No, that's impossible.
- No, it was. It feels like two months.
414
00:23:57,937 --> 00:23:59,772
But it was summer '94.
415
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:04,277
Do I look any different?
416
00:24:05,945 --> 00:24:07,613
I do?
417
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,657
I'd have to see you naked.
418
00:24:10,074 --> 00:24:11,951
- What?
- I know, I'm sorry.
419
00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:14,537
Your hair was different back then.
It was like...
420
00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,081
- It's the same... Oh, down.
- Yeah, take it down.
421
00:24:17,373 --> 00:24:19,041
Down. Okay, it was down. Okay.
422
00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,419
Well? Voilà.
423
00:24:21,752 --> 00:24:23,212
So?
424
00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:26,674
Okay, come on. Tell me.
425
00:24:30,761 --> 00:24:33,222
Skinnier, I think. A little thinner.
426
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,892
Did you think I was fat before?
427
00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:38,936
- No...
- Yeah, you thought I was a fatty.
428
00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:43,149
No, you thought I was a fatty. You
wrote a book about a fat French girl.
429
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:45,318
- No, listen.
- Oh, no.
430
00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:47,653
Seriously, all right? You look beautiful.
431
00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,822
Do I look any different?
432
00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:53,659
No. Not at all.
Actually, you have this line.
433
00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:56,370
- I know.
- It's like a scar.
434
00:24:56,662 --> 00:25:00,875
- A scar? Like a gunshot wound?
- No, no, no. I like it. I'm sorry.
435
00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:07,006
I had this funny...
Well, horrible dream the other day.
436
00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:12,136
I was having this awful nightmare
that I was 32.
437
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:15,556
And then I woke up,
and I was 23. So relieved.
438
00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:18,351
And then I woke up for real,
and I was 32.
439
00:25:18,684 --> 00:25:21,020
- Shit, man. It happens.
- Scary.
440
00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,940
Time goes faster and faster.
Apparently, it's because...
441
00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:27,485
we don't renew synapses after
our 20s, so it's downhill from then on.
442
00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:31,697
I like getting older, you know?
Life feels...
443
00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:35,535
I don't know, it feels more immediate.
Like I can appreciate things more.
444
00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:38,996
No, me too, actually. I really love it.
445
00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:41,290
I was once...
446
00:25:41,582 --> 00:25:42,917
a drummer in a band.
447
00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:45,628
- You were?
- Yeah. We were pretty good, actually.
448
00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:50,007
But the lead-singer guy, he was just so
obsessed with us getting a record deal.
449
00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:53,177
It's all we talked about, thought about,
getting bigger shows.
450
00:25:53,511 --> 00:25:56,889
Everything was just focused on
the future all the time. And now...
451
00:25:57,181 --> 00:25:58,975
the band doesn't even exist anymore.
452
00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:01,477
And looking back
at the shows we did play...
453
00:26:01,769 --> 00:26:04,564
even rehearsing, it was just
so much fun.
454
00:26:04,856 --> 00:26:08,860
I just... Now I'd enjoy every minute of it.
Could I have a drag of that?
455
00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:12,238
Well, your book has been published.
That's a pretty big deal.
456
00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:15,700
You've been all around Europe.
Are you enjoying every minute of it?
457
00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:18,327
- Not really.
- Not really?
458
00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:19,912
No.
459
00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:23,082
- Do you have another one of those?
- Yes, of course.
460
00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:26,752
Here.
461
00:26:27,712 --> 00:26:30,715
In my field, I see these people that...
Oh, sorry.
462
00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:33,467
Come into it with big,
idealist visions...
463
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,387
of becoming the leader
that will create a better world.
464
00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:38,806
They enjoy the goal,
but not the process.
465
00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:40,892
- Right.
- But the reality of it is...
466
00:26:41,142 --> 00:26:44,395
the true work of improving things
is in the little achievements.
467
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:47,607
- That's what you need to enjoy.
- What do you mean, exactly?
468
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:51,360
I was working for this organization
that helped villages in Mexico.
469
00:26:52,195 --> 00:26:54,614
And their concerns was how
to get the pencils...
470
00:26:54,864 --> 00:26:57,158
sent to the kid
in those little country schools.
471
00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:01,120
It was not about big,
revolutionary ideas. It was about pencils.
472
00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:04,957
I see the people that do the real work,
and what's really sad is that...
473
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,919
the people that are
the most giving, hardworking...
474
00:27:08,211 --> 00:27:10,338
and capable of making
this world better...
475
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,633
usually don't have the ego
and ambition to be a leader.
476
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:16,469
They don't see any interest
in superficial rewards.
477
00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,722
They don't care if their name
ever appear in the press.
478
00:27:20,056 --> 00:27:22,725
They actually enjoy the process
of helping others.
479
00:27:23,059 --> 00:27:25,645
- They're in the moment.
- Yeah, but that's so hard...
480
00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:28,731
you know, to be in the moment.
I mean, I feel like I'm...
481
00:27:29,023 --> 00:27:32,860
designed to be slightly dissatisfied
with everything, you know?
482
00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:35,613
It's like always trying
to better my situation.
483
00:27:35,905 --> 00:27:39,200
I satisfy one desire,
and it just agitates another.
484
00:27:39,534 --> 00:27:42,912
And then I think, to hell with it, right?
Desire's the fuel of life.
485
00:27:43,246 --> 00:27:45,957
You know? Do you think it's true...
486
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:49,085
that if we never wanted anything,
we'd never be unhappy?
487
00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:54,257
I don't know. Not wanting anything,
isn't that a symptom of depression?
488
00:27:54,632 --> 00:27:58,135
Yeah, that is, right?
I mean, it's healthy to desire, right?
489
00:27:58,469 --> 00:28:01,931
Yeah. I don't know. It's what all
those Buddhist guys say, right?
490
00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,600
Liberate yourself from desire,
and you'll find...
491
00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:07,937
you already have everything you need.
- But I feel alive...
492
00:28:08,271 --> 00:28:10,940
when I want something more
than basic survival needs.
493
00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:13,943
Wanting, whether it's intimacy
with another person...
494
00:28:14,277 --> 00:28:15,945
or a pair of shoes, is beautiful.
495
00:28:16,237 --> 00:28:19,657
I like that we have those
ever-renewing desires, you know?
496
00:28:19,991 --> 00:28:21,659
Maybe it's this sense
of entitlement.
497
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:25,538
You know, like whenever you feel like
you deserve that new pair of shoes?
498
00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:29,542
It's okay to want things, as long as you
aren't pissed off if you don't get them.
499
00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:31,711
Life's hard. It's supposed to be.
500
00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:34,881
If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't
learn a thing, you know?
501
00:28:36,382 --> 00:28:38,217
So, what, are you Buddhist,
or something?
502
00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:41,929
- No.
- No? Why not?
503
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:47,018
I don't know. The same reason I don't
really consider myself anything, really.
504
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,855
I decided a long time ago that
I was gonna be open to everything...
505
00:28:51,189 --> 00:28:53,566
but not buy into any one
and only belief system.
506
00:28:55,318 --> 00:28:58,321
I went to this Trappist monastery
a couple years ago.
507
00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:02,700
- Trappist?
- Yeah, they're Catholic. Cistercian.
508
00:29:03,159 --> 00:29:06,621
- Why did you do that?
- Why? I'd been doing some reading.
509
00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:10,666
Thought it'd be cool. Have you ever
spent any time with monks or nuns?
510
00:29:11,167 --> 00:29:14,378
- No. It's not really my style.
- No?
511
00:29:15,296 --> 00:29:19,175
Well, I expected them to be all
glowering and stern, but they weren't.
512
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:22,011
They were quick to laugh,
really easy to be around.
513
00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:25,223
Seriously, very attuned to everything,
they were just...
514
00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:27,934
You know, they weren't trying
to hustle anybody.
515
00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:30,603
They're trying to live and die
in peace with God...
516
00:29:30,937 --> 00:29:33,314
or whatever part of them
they feel is eternal.
517
00:29:33,648 --> 00:29:35,525
It was just so refreshing to be around.
518
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:38,152
You realize that most
of the people that you meet...
519
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,154
are trying
to get somewhere better.
520
00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:43,491
They're trying to make more cash,
get a little more respect...
521
00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:46,118
have more people admire them.
It's exhausting.
522
00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:49,455
- No kidding.
- And it's exhausting to be one yourself.
523
00:29:49,789 --> 00:29:53,000
There I am, right, you know,
all greedy to be more spiritual.
524
00:29:53,334 --> 00:29:56,754
"I want to be a better person,"
you know? You can't escape.
525
00:29:57,088 --> 00:30:03,010
I had this boyfriend of mine many years
ago that wanted to be a Buddhist.
526
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,097
So he went to Asia to visit some
of those monasteries.
527
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:09,934
- I've thought about doing that too.
- Yeah, you should. I'll tell you why.
528
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:13,563
He was good-looking, and each time
he went to one of the monasteries...
529
00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:16,357
a monk offered to suck his cock.
530
00:30:16,691 --> 00:30:18,317
True story.
531
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,654
It all comes down to that, doesn't it?
532
00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:24,031
That's why I really admire
what you're doing.
533
00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:26,409
- You know?
- What do you mean? Sucking cock?
534
00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:29,704
- No.
- No? Wrong answer.
535
00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:33,666
No, I was gonna say
you're not detached from life.
536
00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:36,377
You're putting your passion into action.
537
00:30:36,669 --> 00:30:39,255
Well, I try.
538
00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:43,217
You know something?
I'm gonna be on planes...
539
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,720
and in an airport
for the next eight hours...
540
00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:48,306
I'd just love to see
a little bit more of Paris.
541
00:30:48,723 --> 00:30:50,141
- Would you walk with me?
- Yeah.
542
00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:51,642
- Do you mind?
- That's great.
543
00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:53,728
- Do you want to?
- Let's do that. Yeah.
544
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:55,771
What do we owe here?
Four-fifty?
545
00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:58,482
No, I got it, I got a little
per diem going on here.
546
00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:00,902
- This good, for a tip?
- Yeah, that's fine.
547
00:31:01,235 --> 00:31:03,488
- That's more than enough.
- Throw that in too.
548
00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:07,158
- Is there anywhere to go around here?
- It's sales day today.
549
00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:10,328
- What's that?
- It's when everything's on sale in Paris.
550
00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:12,330
It's twice a year.
551
00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,501
All right, let's go shopping.
552
00:31:16,709 --> 00:31:19,712
No, no, no. That's a bad idea.
I don't wanna inflict that on you.
553
00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:23,799
It's madness. Let's just go
to this garden path. It's really nice.
554
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:26,594
All right. That sounds
better than shopping, actually.
555
00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:28,930
Not that I wouldn't do
whatever you wanted.
556
00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:32,058
Sometimes I don't even need
to buy anything. I just get high...
557
00:31:32,350 --> 00:31:34,060
on trying on
and looking at things.
558
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:36,020
Is this where we're going?
559
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,439
- Yeah.
- A therapist will tell you that's good.
560
00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,942
- Really? Are you ever in therapy?
- Oh, no.
561
00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:44,195
- Do I seem like I'm in therapy?
- I'm kidding.
562
00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:48,407
- Does it help your sex problems?
- My sex problems?
563
00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:50,201
- I'm kidding.
- Tell me the truth.
564
00:31:50,493 --> 00:31:52,620
- We didn't have any problems.
- No, I'm kidding.
565
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:55,331
- We didn't even have sex.
- That's a joke, right?
566
00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:58,209
No, we didn't.
I mean, that was the whole thing.
567
00:31:58,459 --> 00:32:00,419
- Of course we did.
- No, no, no, we didn't.
568
00:32:00,711 --> 00:32:03,381
You didn't have a condom
and I never have sex without one.
569
00:32:03,714 --> 00:32:05,508
I'm extremely paranoid.
There's no way...
570
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,261
I find it scary that you don't
remember what happened.
571
00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:09,846
No, listen...
572
00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,640
I didn't write an entire book,
but I kept a journal...
573
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:16,769
and I wrote the whole night in it.
That's what I meant, you idealizing it.
574
00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:20,189
All right, listen, I even remember
what brand of condom we used.
575
00:32:20,523 --> 00:32:22,358
That's disgusting.
I don't wanna hear it.
576
00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:25,027
- That's not disgusting.
- No.
577
00:32:25,403 --> 00:32:29,740
Okay, when I get home I'll check my
journal from '94, but I know I'm right.
578
00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:34,620
- Wait a minute.
- What?
579
00:32:34,871 --> 00:32:37,540
- Was it in the cemetery?
- No.
580
00:32:37,832 --> 00:32:40,126
No, we went to the cemetery
in the afternoon.
581
00:32:40,376 --> 00:32:43,171
It was in the park, very late at night.
582
00:32:43,671 --> 00:32:45,756
- In the park?
- Wait a minute, wait a minute.
583
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,758
I can't... I can't...
584
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,929
Is it that forgettable? You really
don't remember? In the park?
585
00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,016
Okay. Wait a minute,
I think you might be right...
586
00:32:55,308 --> 00:32:56,601
You're messing with me now.
587
00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:58,144
- No.
- Are you messing with me?
588
00:32:58,436 --> 00:33:01,480
Okay. No, I'm sorry. I think...
I mean, you're right, okay?
589
00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:05,109
Sometimes I put things in drawers
inside my head and forget about it.
590
00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:08,029
It's less painful to put things
away than live with it.
591
00:33:08,362 --> 00:33:10,948
What, so that night was, like,
a sad memory for you?
592
00:33:11,282 --> 00:33:13,034
I didn't mean that night
in particular.
593
00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:15,286
I meant certain things
are better forgotten.
594
00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:17,955
I remember that night
better than I do entire years.
595
00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:19,999
- Me too.
- Really?
596
00:33:20,249 --> 00:33:22,335
Well, I thought I did.
597
00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:28,549
But maybe I... Maybe I put it away
because of the fact that...
598
00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:31,886
my grandmother's funeral was
the day we were supposed to meet.
599
00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:35,056
It was a tough day for me,
but it must've been worse for you.
600
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:39,810
It was unreal. I remember looking
at her dead body in the coffin...
601
00:33:40,144 --> 00:33:44,357
at her beautiful hands, so warm,
so sweet, that used to hold me...
602
00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:48,152
but nothing in that coffin resembled
what I remembered of her.
603
00:33:48,486 --> 00:33:49,987
All the warmth was gone.
604
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,990
And then I was crying,
so confused if I was crying...
605
00:33:53,282 --> 00:33:58,621
because I was never gonna see her
again or never gonna see you again...
606
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,750
I'm sorry. I'm sorry to go on like this.
I've been a little down this week.
607
00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:06,003
- Why?
- I don't know. Nothing bad, just...
608
00:34:06,337 --> 00:34:08,214
Reading your book, maybe?
609
00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:12,176
No, but... Thinking of how hopeful
I was that summer and fall...
610
00:34:12,552 --> 00:34:14,679
and since then it's been kind of a...
611
00:34:15,346 --> 00:34:16,681
I don't know.
612
00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:20,935
Memory is a wonderful thing if
you don't have to deal with the past.
613
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:26,524
"Memory is wonderful if you don't
have to deal with the past".
614
00:34:26,816 --> 00:34:28,401
Can I put that
on a bumper sticker?
615
00:34:28,651 --> 00:34:31,237
If you wrote a book about our night,
that's a good title.
616
00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:35,241
- And it could be a total different book.
- Yeah, there'd be no sex scenes.
617
00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:37,285
- But you know what?
- What?
618
00:34:37,535 --> 00:34:38,828
Now that we've met again...
619
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,622
we can change our memory
of that December 6.
620
00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:45,209
It no longer has that sad ending
of us never seeing each other again.
621
00:34:45,543 --> 00:34:49,797
Right. I mean, I guess a memory's
never finished as long as you're alive.
622
00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:53,634
Yeah, I know. I have this memory
from my childhood...
623
00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:56,470
I realized recently never happened.
- What?
624
00:34:56,762 --> 00:34:59,599
Well, when I was 8 or 9,
my mom was so paranoid...
625
00:34:59,891 --> 00:35:02,643
when I was walking home
from my piano lesson at night...
626
00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:05,521
she'd warn me about dirty old men
giving me candies...
627
00:35:05,813 --> 00:35:07,565
and then showing me
their pee-pees.
628
00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:10,776
She was so obsessed with it that,
later in life, you know...
629
00:35:11,068 --> 00:35:14,363
I had this image in my head
that this really happened.
630
00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:18,034
To the point that I even associated sex
with that walk home.
631
00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:21,913
I mean, and sometimes,
even now, when I'm...
632
00:35:22,955 --> 00:35:26,751
When I'm having sex, I see myself
walking down that street.
633
00:35:27,084 --> 00:35:28,920
I swear. It's so weird, right?
634
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:33,216
- Is that street nearby? I mean, could...?
- Could we? No.
635
00:35:33,549 --> 00:35:35,676
Very far.
636
00:35:36,928 --> 00:35:39,347
Did you ever keep a journal
when you were a kid?
637
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,850
Yeah. On and off, I guess.
638
00:35:43,142 --> 00:35:45,186
It's funny, I read one of mine...
639
00:35:45,478 --> 00:35:47,271
from '83 the other day.
- Yeah?
640
00:35:47,688 --> 00:35:49,273
And what really surprised me is...
641
00:35:49,524 --> 00:35:52,318
that I was dealing with life
the same way I am now.
642
00:35:52,652 --> 00:35:54,570
I was much more hopeful and naive...
643
00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:58,908
but the core, and the way I was
feeling things, is exactly the same.
644
00:35:59,283 --> 00:36:01,536
It made me realize
I haven't changed much at all.
645
00:36:01,786 --> 00:36:03,204
I don't think anybody does.
646
00:36:03,454 --> 00:36:07,083
People don't want to admit it, but it's
like we have these innate set points...
647
00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:10,878
and nothing much that happens to us
changes our disposition.
648
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,588
- You believe that?
- I think so.
649
00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:16,050
I read this study where they followed
people who'd won the lottery...
650
00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:18,135
and people who'd become paraplegics.
651
00:36:18,386 --> 00:36:22,348
You'd think one extreme is gonna make
you euphoric and the other suicidal.
652
00:36:22,723 --> 00:36:25,309
But the study shows that,
after about six months...
653
00:36:25,601 --> 00:36:28,771
as soon as people had gotten used to
their new situation...
654
00:36:29,063 --> 00:36:31,274
they were, more or less, the same.
- The same?
655
00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:34,652
Yeah. Like, if they were basically
an optimistic, jovial person...
656
00:36:34,944 --> 00:36:37,697
they're now an optimistic, jovial
person in a wheelchair.
657
00:36:37,989 --> 00:36:39,866
If they're a petty, miserable asshole...
658
00:36:40,116 --> 00:36:43,911
they're a petty, miserable asshole
with a new Cadillac, a house and a boat.
659
00:36:44,245 --> 00:36:47,456
So I'll be forever depressed
no matter what great things happen?
660
00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:49,083
- Definitely.
- Great.
661
00:36:49,292 --> 00:36:50,918
No, come on, are you depressed now?
662
00:36:51,169 --> 00:36:53,379
No, no, I'm not depressed.
663
00:36:53,629 --> 00:36:56,215
But sometimes I worry
I'll get to the end of my life...
664
00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:59,844
feeling I haven't done all I wanted to.
- Well, what do you want to do?
665
00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:01,804
I...
666
00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:04,974
I want to paint more,
I want to play my guitar every day.
667
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:08,311
I want to learn Chinese.
I want to write more songs.
668
00:37:08,644 --> 00:37:12,815
There's so many things I want to do,
and I end up doing not much.
669
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:19,489
All right, well, let me ask you this:
Do you believe in ghosts or spirits?
670
00:37:19,906 --> 00:37:21,240
No.
671
00:37:21,449 --> 00:37:22,700
- No?
- No.
672
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:26,579
- Okay, what about reincarnation?
- Not at all.
673
00:37:26,871 --> 00:37:28,748
- God?
- No.
674
00:37:28,998 --> 00:37:31,417
- All right.
- That sounds terrible. No, no, no.
675
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:35,421
But I don't want to be one of those
people that don't believe in any magic.
676
00:37:35,755 --> 00:37:37,590
- So then, astrology?
- Yes, of course!
677
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,592
- There we go.
- That makes sense, right?
678
00:37:39,842 --> 00:37:43,137
You're a Scorpio,
I'm a Sag, we get along.
679
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:45,932
No, no, no.
680
00:37:46,182 --> 00:37:49,060
There's an Einstein quote
I really, really like.
681
00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:52,772
He said, "If you don't believe
in any kind of magic or mystery...
682
00:37:53,064 --> 00:37:55,816
you're basically as good as dead".
- Yeah, I like that.
683
00:37:56,067 --> 00:37:59,278
I've always felt there was some kind of
mystical core to the universe.
684
00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:04,575
But, more recently, I've started to think
that, me, my personality, whatever...
685
00:38:04,951 --> 00:38:07,912
That I don't have any permanent
place here, you know.
686
00:38:08,204 --> 00:38:09,789
In eternity or whatever, you know.
687
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,709
And the more I think that, I can't go
through life saying this is no big deal.
688
00:38:14,043 --> 00:38:17,380
This is it. This is actually happening.
What do you think is interesting?
689
00:38:17,713 --> 00:38:19,799
What do you think is funny?
What is important?
690
00:38:20,091 --> 00:38:22,260
You know, every day's our last.
691
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,138
When I feel that way, I usually
call my mom to tell her I love her.
692
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,015
- Yeah?
- And she's always:
693
00:38:28,224 --> 00:38:32,186
"Are you okay? Do you have cancer?
Are you gonna commit suicide?"
694
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,022
It's almost not worth it.
695
00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:39,026
So, what about us?
696
00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:41,779
- What about us?
- No, what I mean is...
697
00:38:42,029 --> 00:38:45,491
if we were both going to die tonight...
- Like the apocalypse was coming?
698
00:38:45,783 --> 00:38:49,745
No, that's too dramatic... But what if
just the two of us were going to die?
699
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,956
I mean, would we talk
about your book?
700
00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:54,834
- The environment? Or...
- If today was our last day?
701
00:38:55,126 --> 00:38:57,628
Yeah, what would we talk about?
What would you tell me?
702
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,380
- Well...
- That's hard, huh?
703
00:38:59,630 --> 00:39:00,923
- No, no, I'll do it.
- Okay.
704
00:39:01,132 --> 00:39:03,467
I definitely would
stop talking about my book.
705
00:39:03,759 --> 00:39:06,304
- I would probably drop the environment.
- Okay.
706
00:39:06,596 --> 00:39:10,391
But I would still want to talk about,
you know, the magic in the universe.
707
00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:13,811
- I'd just want to do it from a...
- What?
708
00:39:14,103 --> 00:39:15,688
a hotel room, you know...
709
00:39:15,897 --> 00:39:19,525
in between sessions of us
wildly fucking until we die.
710
00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,570
Wow. Well, why waste time
with an hotel room?
711
00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:26,115
Why not do it right there on a bench?
712
00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:29,327
Come here, come here, come here.
713
00:39:29,577 --> 00:39:31,871
Okay. We're not gonna die tonight.
714
00:39:32,163 --> 00:39:34,123
All right. Too bad. I'm sorry.
715
00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:35,833
That was an extreme example.
716
00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:38,461
- I'm sorry.
- Okay.
717
00:39:38,711 --> 00:39:40,338
What I... My point was, you know...
718
00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:43,299
to truly communicate with
people is very hard to do.
719
00:39:43,549 --> 00:39:46,260
No, I know, most of our
day-to-day exchanges...
720
00:39:46,511 --> 00:39:48,012
Yeah, no, I mean...
721
00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,723
not to bring everything back to sex...
- But why not?
722
00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:54,018
No, this example, this friend of mine,
she was talking about...
723
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:57,230
- She and her boyfriend... Problems in bed.
- Right.
724
00:39:57,563 --> 00:40:00,900
And how when they had been dating
for a year she started telling him...
725
00:40:01,234 --> 00:40:04,111
what he could do to please her more,
and it freaked him out.
726
00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:05,696
- Why?
- Totally.
727
00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:07,824
He thought it meant
he was a bad lover...
728
00:40:08,115 --> 00:40:09,909
Maybe she shouldn't have
waited so long.
729
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:12,453
- After a year...
- But men are so easily offended.
730
00:40:12,703 --> 00:40:15,081
- What, more than women?
- Definitely on that subject.
731
00:40:15,373 --> 00:40:16,666
- You think so?
- Yeah, yeah.
732
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:19,502
Well, maybe it's because, you know...
733
00:40:19,794 --> 00:40:23,673
men are easier to... To please.
- To please?
734
00:40:24,048 --> 00:40:26,926
- Well, I don't know.
- Yeah, they are. They're definitely.
735
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:29,262
Anyway, this friend,
she was telling me...
736
00:40:29,554 --> 00:40:33,099
next time she dates a man,
she's gonna make a little questionnaire...
737
00:40:33,391 --> 00:40:36,686
about what they like and dislike...
- What, written down, or out loud?
738
00:40:37,019 --> 00:40:38,688
Yeah, mostly written down.
739
00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:42,441
But it wouldn't be just yes or no.
It would be a bit more complex than that.
740
00:40:42,775 --> 00:40:46,112
Like, for example, if the question is:
"Are you into S&M?"
741
00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:51,075
The answer could be: "No, but a good
spanking once in a while doesn't hurt".
742
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,996
Right, or like:
"Do you like talking dirty in bed?"
743
00:40:55,329 --> 00:40:58,624
- That kind of thing?
- Yeah, but not just like any dirty talk.
744
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:01,252
Just "What specific word
would you like to hear?"
745
00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:02,753
- What, me?
- Well, yeah.
746
00:41:03,004 --> 00:41:05,548
For example what specific word
would you like to hear?
747
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,383
I don't know.
748
00:41:08,968 --> 00:41:11,387
What do you feel about the word
"pussy"?
749
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:14,348
I love it.
750
00:41:14,849 --> 00:41:16,434
Good.
751
00:41:16,684 --> 00:41:19,562
It's amazing what perverts we've
become in the past nine years.
752
00:41:19,854 --> 00:41:22,982
At least now we don't have to pretend
each new sexual experience...
753
00:41:23,316 --> 00:41:24,942
is, like, a life-altering event.
754
00:41:25,193 --> 00:41:28,571
I know. By now, you've stuck it in
so many places it's about to fall off.
755
00:41:28,863 --> 00:41:32,408
And I can't realistically expect you've
become anything but a total ho.
756
00:41:32,742 --> 00:41:35,995
- Yeah, thank you.
- No, I'm s...
757
00:41:36,746 --> 00:41:39,624
- That's true. What can you do?
- What can you do?
758
00:41:39,916 --> 00:41:43,544
So, what kind of songs do you write?
I didn't know you did that.
759
00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:45,046
- What kind?
- Yeah, sure.
760
00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:46,839
- I don't know, just songs.
- Like?
761
00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:49,634
Like, some are about,
you know, people.
762
00:41:49,926 --> 00:41:51,511
Relationships. One's about my cat.
763
00:41:51,761 --> 00:41:54,180
- Sing one.
- No, I can't. I don't have a guitar.
764
00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:55,973
- Come on. A cappella.
- No, no, no.
765
00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:59,185
I'm not singing a song without a guitar.
You're nuts.
766
00:41:59,852 --> 00:42:01,687
Why not?
767
00:42:01,938 --> 00:42:04,273
- No, okay. Not now. No.
- One.
768
00:42:04,565 --> 00:42:07,693
If not now, when? You want to meet
here in six months with a guitar?
769
00:42:07,985 --> 00:42:09,403
I'll fly all the way over here.
770
00:42:09,654 --> 00:42:12,532
- You may or may not make the Métro.
- Okay, that's funny.
771
00:42:13,032 --> 00:42:15,034
- We've got to get back.
- We'll be all right.
772
00:42:15,284 --> 00:42:17,203
- You're gonna miss your flight.
- All right.
773
00:42:17,453 --> 00:42:19,205
We can walk down La Seine.
It's nice.
774
00:42:19,455 --> 00:42:20,957
Okay.
775
00:42:21,624 --> 00:42:25,169
- So you're flying back to New York?
- Yeah, yeah.
776
00:42:27,213 --> 00:42:31,008
So I read in that article that
you're married with a kid. That's great.
777
00:42:31,342 --> 00:42:33,719
Yeah, he's... He's 4.
778
00:42:34,011 --> 00:42:36,138
- What's his name?
- Henry. Little Hank.
779
00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:39,100
- He's so much fun.
- Oh, wow, I'm sure.
780
00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:42,186
- Your wife, what does she do?
- She teaches elementary school.
781
00:42:42,854 --> 00:42:45,314
- Do you have kids?
- Yes, two... Shit!
782
00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:46,983
- What?
- I left them in the car!
783
00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,819
With the windows up, six months ago!
Think they're okay?
784
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:52,613
No, I'm kidding.
No, but I want to have kids someday.
785
00:42:52,864 --> 00:42:54,657
- I'm just not ready yet.
- No?
786
00:42:54,907 --> 00:42:57,952
- I'm in a good relationship, though.
- Oh yeah? That's good.
787
00:42:58,244 --> 00:43:00,246
- What's he do?
- He's a photojournalist.
788
00:43:00,496 --> 00:43:02,248
He does war coverage.
789
00:43:02,498 --> 00:43:04,959
He's away a lot, which is good
because I'm so busy.
790
00:43:05,251 --> 00:43:09,172
But isn't that dangerous? Aren't a lot of
those guys getting killed these days?
791
00:43:09,505 --> 00:43:12,633
He promises me he doesn't take risks,
but I often worry.
792
00:43:12,925 --> 00:43:15,344
He goes in this trance when
he photographs something.
793
00:43:15,636 --> 00:43:18,848
- What do you mean?
- Well, once we were in New Delhi...
794
00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,558
and we passed a bum on the...
795
00:43:20,808 --> 00:43:22,977
- A bomb?
- A bum. A homeless.
796
00:43:23,227 --> 00:43:24,520
All right, right.
797
00:43:24,729 --> 00:43:28,399
He looked like he needed help, but his
first reaction was to photograph him.
798
00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:31,444
He went really close to his face,
fixing his collar...
799
00:43:31,736 --> 00:43:33,404
totally detached from the person.
800
00:43:33,654 --> 00:43:36,282
But don't you have to be like that
to be good at that job?
801
00:43:36,574 --> 00:43:37,825
Yeah, I mean, I'm not...
802
00:43:38,075 --> 00:43:41,078
I'm not judging him.
What he does is essential and incredible.
803
00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:43,414
All I'm saying is that
I could never do it.
804
00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:45,333
Let's get on that boat. Come on.
805
00:43:45,583 --> 00:43:46,834
- No!
- Come on, it'll be fun.
806
00:43:47,084 --> 00:43:49,337
- You don't have time!
- They're about to take off.
807
00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:51,881
I've got 15 more minutes.
Do you have a cell phone?
808
00:43:52,173 --> 00:43:54,383
- Yeah.
- All right, I've got that driver's number.
809
00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:56,761
I can call him to pick us up
at the next stop.
810
00:43:57,011 --> 00:44:00,723
I've never been on those boats.
It's for tourists, it's embarrassing.
811
00:44:01,057 --> 00:44:02,308
Okay. All right.
812
00:44:05,811 --> 00:44:07,355
No, I'll get it, I'll get it.
813
00:44:08,231 --> 00:44:10,691
All right. All right, all right.
814
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,613
Thank you.
815
00:44:15,822 --> 00:44:17,865
- So are you in love with that guy?
- What guy?
816
00:44:18,157 --> 00:44:21,369
- The war photographer.
- Yes, of course.
817
00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:27,416
So do you have that cell phone?
818
00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:29,335
Oh, yeah.
819
00:44:29,585 --> 00:44:31,337
- Okay, let's see...
- Okay.
820
00:44:31,587 --> 00:44:32,880
What do I tell him?
821
00:44:33,089 --> 00:44:35,216
Tell him to pick you up at
Quai Henri Quatre.
822
00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:38,135
Oh, shit. Quai...?
823
00:44:38,427 --> 00:44:41,097
Henri Quatre. Quai Henri Quatre.
824
00:44:41,389 --> 00:44:43,349
Henri Quatre.
825
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,477
What's wrong with you? No, do you
want me to...? Henri Quatre.
826
00:44:46,769 --> 00:44:48,062
- Henry Four?
- Yes!
827
00:44:48,312 --> 00:44:51,190
- Come on, why didn't you say so?
- I'm sorry. Okay.
828
00:45:03,452 --> 00:45:05,288
Yeah, is this Philippe?
829
00:45:05,538 --> 00:45:08,082
Yeah. Philippe, this is Jesse Wallace.
830
00:45:08,374 --> 00:45:09,667
Yeah.
831
00:45:09,917 --> 00:45:14,005
Well, listen, I'm on
one of those boats, right?
832
00:45:14,338 --> 00:45:17,133
And we're gonna arrive at Henry Four.
833
00:45:17,425 --> 00:45:20,636
At Port Henry Four.
You know what that is?
834
00:45:20,970 --> 00:45:23,347
All right, great.
And you have my bags, right?
835
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,475
Yeah, so we'll be there in...
I don't know, it's the next stop.
836
00:45:26,767 --> 00:45:29,020
Okay. Au revoir.
837
00:45:30,229 --> 00:45:32,607
- It's okay?
- Yeah, yeah.
838
00:45:32,857 --> 00:45:34,734
Oh, wow.
839
00:45:34,984 --> 00:45:37,570
- Notre Dame, man. Check that out.
- Oh, wow.
840
00:45:37,862 --> 00:45:41,699
I heard this story once about when
the Germans were occupying Paris...
841
00:45:42,033 --> 00:45:43,618
and they had to retreat back.
842
00:45:43,826 --> 00:45:45,703
They wired Notre Dame to blow...
843
00:45:45,953 --> 00:45:50,041
but they had to leave one guy
in charge of hitting the switch.
844
00:45:50,374 --> 00:45:53,336
And the guy, the soldier,
he couldn't do it.
845
00:45:53,628 --> 00:45:57,173
He just sat there, knocked out
by how beautiful the place was.
846
00:45:57,507 --> 00:45:59,300
Then, when the Allied troops
came in...
847
00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:02,929
they found all the explosives
lying there and the switch unturned...
848
00:46:03,221 --> 00:46:06,724
and they found the same thing
at the Sacré-Coeur, Eiffel Tower...
849
00:46:07,058 --> 00:46:09,227
couple other places, I think.
850
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:11,395
Is that true?
851
00:46:11,646 --> 00:46:14,607
I don't know.
I always liked the story, though.
852
00:46:14,899 --> 00:46:16,192
Yeah, that's a great story.
853
00:46:16,484 --> 00:46:19,237
But you have to think that Notre Dame
will be gone one day.
854
00:46:19,529 --> 00:46:22,573
There used to be another church
at the Seine, right there.
855
00:46:22,865 --> 00:46:25,618
- What, right in the same spot?
- Yeah.
856
00:46:27,161 --> 00:46:29,539
You know, this is great.
I've never done this.
857
00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:32,333
- Yeah.
- I forget about how beautiful Paris is.
858
00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,168
It's not so bad, being a tourist.
859
00:46:34,377 --> 00:46:36,754
- Thanks for getting me on the boat.
- You're welcome.
860
00:46:37,046 --> 00:46:39,841
I think that book that I wrote
was like building something...
861
00:46:40,466 --> 00:46:44,428
so that I wouldn't forget the details
of the time that we spent together.
862
00:46:44,846 --> 00:46:48,432
You know, like, just as a reminder,
that once, we really did meet.
863
00:46:48,766 --> 00:46:51,602
You know, that this was real,
this happened.
864
00:46:51,894 --> 00:46:53,813
I'm happy you're saying that,
because...
865
00:46:54,063 --> 00:46:58,192
I mean, I always feel like a freak because
I'm never able to move on like this:
866
00:46:59,485 --> 00:47:02,655
People just have an affair,
or even entire relationships...
867
00:47:02,989 --> 00:47:05,283
they break up and they forget.
868
00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:09,245
They move on like they would have
changed brand of cereals.
869
00:47:10,037 --> 00:47:13,166
I feel I was never able to forget
anyone I've been with...
870
00:47:13,457 --> 00:47:18,796
because each person had their own
specific qualities.
871
00:47:19,213 --> 00:47:23,843
You can never replace anyone.
What is lost is lost.
872
00:47:25,219 --> 00:47:29,182
Each relationship, when it ends,
really damages me. I never fully recover.
873
00:47:29,557 --> 00:47:32,602
That's why I'm very careful
with getting involved...
874
00:47:32,894 --> 00:47:34,854
because it hurts too much.
875
00:47:35,104 --> 00:47:38,149
Even getting laid,
I actually don't do that...
876
00:47:38,441 --> 00:47:41,235
because I will miss of the person
the most mundane things.
877
00:47:41,527 --> 00:47:44,113
Like I'm obsessed with little things.
878
00:47:44,572 --> 00:47:46,782
Maybe I'm crazy,
but when I was a little girl...
879
00:47:47,074 --> 00:47:49,869
my mom told me
that I was always late to school.
880
00:47:50,161 --> 00:47:52,455
One day she followed me to see why.
881
00:47:52,747 --> 00:47:56,876
I was looking at chestnuts falling from
the trees, rolling on the sidewalk...
882
00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:02,715
or ants crossing the road, the way
a leaf casts a shadow on a tree trunk.
883
00:48:03,132 --> 00:48:05,092
Little things.
884
00:48:05,676 --> 00:48:07,428
I think it's the same with people.
885
00:48:08,012 --> 00:48:10,806
I see in them little details,
so specific to each of them...
886
00:48:11,098 --> 00:48:15,061
that move me and that I miss
and will always miss.
887
00:48:15,394 --> 00:48:16,854
You can never replace anyone...
888
00:48:17,063 --> 00:48:20,858
because everyone is made of such
beautiful, specific details.
889
00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:27,657
Like, I remember the way your beard
has a bit of red in it...
890
00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:31,077
and how the sun
was making it glow...
891
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:34,080
that morning right before you left.
892
00:48:35,122 --> 00:48:38,876
I remembered that, and I missed it.
893
00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:40,461
Really crazy, right?
894
00:48:41,170 --> 00:48:44,924
Now I know for sure. You wanna
know why I wrote that stupid book?
895
00:48:45,299 --> 00:48:48,094
- Why?
- So you'd come to a reading in Paris...
896
00:48:48,427 --> 00:48:52,431
and I could walk up to you and ask,
"Where the fuck were you?"
897
00:48:53,015 --> 00:48:55,101
No... You think I'd be here today?
898
00:48:55,393 --> 00:48:59,772
I'm serious. I think I wrote it,
in a way, to try to find you.
899
00:49:00,148 --> 00:49:02,108
Okay, that's... I know that's not true...
900
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,652
but that's sweet of you.
- I think it is true.
901
00:49:04,944 --> 00:49:07,280
What were the chances
of us ever meeting again?
902
00:49:08,197 --> 00:49:11,284
After that December,
I'd say almost zero.
903
00:49:11,826 --> 00:49:13,786
But we're not real anyway, right?
904
00:49:14,036 --> 00:49:17,123
We're just characters
in that old lady's dream.
905
00:49:17,415 --> 00:49:19,709
She's on her deathbed,
fantasizing about her youth.
906
00:49:20,001 --> 00:49:22,003
So of course we had to meet again.
907
00:49:22,253 --> 00:49:26,007
Oh, God. Why weren't you there
in Vienna?
908
00:49:27,341 --> 00:49:30,928
- I told you why.
- I know why, I just...
909
00:49:31,262 --> 00:49:33,389
I wish you would have been.
910
00:49:33,681 --> 00:49:35,850
Our lives might have been
so much different.
911
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,186
You think so?
912
00:49:38,477 --> 00:49:40,021
I actually do.
913
00:49:40,313 --> 00:49:43,316
Maybe not. Maybe we would have
hated each other eventually.
914
00:49:43,649 --> 00:49:46,402
What, like we hate each other now?
915
00:49:47,445 --> 00:49:51,741
You know, maybe we're...
We're only good at brief encounters...
916
00:49:52,116 --> 00:49:56,162
walking around in European cities,
in warm climate.
917
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:59,832
Oh, God. Why didn't we
exchange phone numbers and stuff?
918
00:50:00,124 --> 00:50:02,210
Why didn't we do that?
919
00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:04,712
Because we were young and stupid.
920
00:50:05,004 --> 00:50:07,215
Do you think we still are?
921
00:50:07,465 --> 00:50:09,467
I guess when you're young
you just believe...
922
00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:12,220
there'll be many people
you'll connect with.
923
00:50:12,970 --> 00:50:15,473
Later in life you realize
it only happens a few times.
924
00:50:15,765 --> 00:50:19,227
And you can screw it up, you know.
Misconnect.
925
00:50:19,602 --> 00:50:21,938
The past is the past.
It was meant to be that way.
926
00:50:22,188 --> 00:50:24,774
You really believe that?
That everything's fated?
927
00:50:25,024 --> 00:50:28,820
Well, you know, the world might be
less free than we think.
928
00:50:29,195 --> 00:50:30,822
Yeah?
929
00:50:31,155 --> 00:50:34,909
When given these exact circumstances,
that's what will happen every time.
930
00:50:35,243 --> 00:50:38,162
Two part hydrogen, one part oxygen,
you'll get water every time.
931
00:50:38,454 --> 00:50:41,707
No, I mean, what if your grandmother
had lived a week longer, you know?
932
00:50:42,041 --> 00:50:44,544
Or passed away a week earlier?
Days, even?
933
00:50:44,836 --> 00:50:46,379
Things might have been different.
934
00:50:46,587 --> 00:50:50,633
- You can't think like that, it's...
- You shouldn't on most things, but...
935
00:50:50,967 --> 00:50:55,972
It's just, on this one, it seemed like
something was off, you know.
936
00:50:56,681 --> 00:51:00,268
In the months leading up to my wedding,
I was thinking about you all the time.
937
00:51:00,601 --> 00:51:04,272
Even on my way there, I'm in the car, a
buddy of mine is driving me downtown...
938
00:51:04,605 --> 00:51:07,233
and I'm staring out the window
and I think I see you...
939
00:51:07,525 --> 00:51:09,610
not far from the church, right...
940
00:51:09,861 --> 00:51:12,238
folding up an umbrella
and walking into a deli...
941
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:15,992
on the corner of 3th and Broadway.
942
00:51:16,325 --> 00:51:19,704
And I thought I was going crazy.
But now I think it probably was you.
943
00:51:20,663 --> 00:51:23,166
I lived on th and Broadway.
944
00:51:24,083 --> 00:51:25,877
You see?
945
00:51:27,253 --> 00:51:30,840
So, what is it like to be married?
You haven't talked much about that.
946
00:51:31,924 --> 00:51:35,303
I haven't? How weird.
947
00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:39,765
I don't know. We met, you know,
when I was in college.
948
00:51:40,099 --> 00:51:46,189
And we broke up and got back together
for a period of years, and then...
949
00:51:47,106 --> 00:51:51,152
What? We were sort of back together
and she was pregnant...
950
00:51:51,986 --> 00:51:53,488
so marriage.
951
00:51:53,738 --> 00:51:55,698
What is she like?
952
00:51:55,948 --> 00:51:58,826
She's a great teacher, a good mom.
953
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,079
She's smart, pretty, you know.
954
00:52:02,371 --> 00:52:04,373
I remember thinking at the time...
955
00:52:04,624 --> 00:52:06,876
that so many of the men
that I admired most...
956
00:52:07,168 --> 00:52:11,797
that their lives were dedicated to
something greater than themselves.
957
00:52:12,757 --> 00:52:15,343
So you got married because
men you admired were married?
958
00:52:15,635 --> 00:52:21,641
No, no. It's more like I had this...
This idea of my best self, you know?
959
00:52:22,058 --> 00:52:23,726
And I wanted to pursue that...
960
00:52:23,976 --> 00:52:26,604
even if it might have been
overriding my honest self.
961
00:52:26,896 --> 00:52:28,231
You know what I'm saying?
962
00:52:28,481 --> 00:52:32,860
In the moment, I remember thinking
it didn't much matter, the who of it all.
963
00:52:33,236 --> 00:52:35,655
I mean, that nobody is gonna be
everything to you...
964
00:52:35,905 --> 00:52:38,658
and that it's just the action
of committing yourself...
965
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:42,328
you know, meeting
your responsibilities, that matters.
966
00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:46,082
I mean, what is love, right,
if it's not respect, trust, admiration?
967
00:52:46,415 --> 00:52:49,377
And I... I felt all those things.
968
00:52:49,669 --> 00:52:52,421
Cut to the present,
and I feel like I'm running a nursery...
969
00:52:52,713 --> 00:52:55,299
with somebody I used to date,
you know.
970
00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:57,301
I mean, I'm like a monk, you know.
971
00:52:57,552 --> 00:53:02,223
I mean, I've had sex less than 10 times
in the last four years.
972
00:53:02,932 --> 00:53:05,393
- What, what? You laughing at me?
- No.
973
00:53:05,685 --> 00:53:08,396
- It sounds pathetic?
- What monastery do monks have sex...?
974
00:53:08,688 --> 00:53:11,899
Okay, you're right, I'm doing better
than most monks.
975
00:53:12,191 --> 00:53:14,610
But I do, I feel like if somebody
were to touch me...
976
00:53:14,861 --> 00:53:16,946
I would dissolve into molecules.
977
00:53:17,238 --> 00:53:19,866
Well, we're here. We've gotta go.
Come on.
978
00:53:20,158 --> 00:53:21,951
Shit.
979
00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:37,341
- I'm sorry to hear that, you know.
- What?
980
00:53:37,675 --> 00:53:40,636
You're not that happy
with your marriage.
981
00:53:40,928 --> 00:53:43,472
- This friend of mine, she's a shrink...
- How's she doing?
982
00:53:43,764 --> 00:53:45,266
She's a mess, but...
983
00:53:45,516 --> 00:53:48,644
No, she said she's been dealing
with couples that are breaking up...
984
00:53:48,936 --> 00:53:50,980
for the same reason.
- What reason is that?
985
00:53:51,272 --> 00:53:53,900
They all expected, after a few
years of living together...
986
00:53:54,192 --> 00:53:56,444
for the passion, that desire,
to be the same.
987
00:53:56,694 --> 00:53:58,070
- Yeah, right.
- It's impossible.
988
00:53:58,321 --> 00:53:59,614
And thank God...
989
00:53:59,822 --> 00:54:03,409
we'd end up with aneurysms in that
constant state of excitement, right?
990
00:54:03,743 --> 00:54:05,495
We'd do nothing at all
with our lives.
991
00:54:05,703 --> 00:54:09,040
Would you have finished your book
if you were fucking every five minutes?
992
00:54:09,373 --> 00:54:11,834
I might have welcomed the challenge,
I mean...
993
00:54:12,168 --> 00:54:14,795
It's natural for your wife
after the birth of your son...
994
00:54:15,087 --> 00:54:17,590
to give all her love to the little one.
- Of course.
995
00:54:17,882 --> 00:54:20,927
If she was obsessed with sex,
riding you like a wildcat...
996
00:54:21,219 --> 00:54:22,887
That wouldn't make any sense, right?
997
00:54:23,137 --> 00:54:26,557
Everything you're saying makes sense.
It's not about sex.
998
00:54:26,891 --> 00:54:29,018
No, I know. It's obvious.
999
00:54:29,268 --> 00:54:30,812
I...
1000
00:54:31,979 --> 00:54:35,024
You know, couples
are so confused lately.
1001
00:54:35,358 --> 00:54:37,568
I think it must be that...
1002
00:54:37,819 --> 00:54:41,614
men need to feel essential
and they don't anymore.
1003
00:54:41,948 --> 00:54:44,408
It's been imprinted in their head
for so many years...
1004
00:54:44,659 --> 00:54:46,285
that they had to be the provider.
1005
00:54:46,536 --> 00:54:50,039
Like, I'm a strong, independent woman
in my professional life.
1006
00:54:50,373 --> 00:54:51,833
I don't need a man to feed me...
1007
00:54:52,083 --> 00:54:55,294
but I still need a man to love me
and that I could love.
1008
00:54:56,796 --> 00:54:59,340
- So your driver's here.
- Yeah.
1009
00:54:59,674 --> 00:55:01,300
Well, I guess this is goodbye.
1010
00:55:01,509 --> 00:55:03,094
- You better give me your...
- No, no.
1011
00:55:03,344 --> 00:55:05,471
Why don't we just
give you a ride home?
1012
00:55:05,721 --> 00:55:07,974
- Well, I can take the Métro. I'm fine.
- No, I...
1013
00:55:08,224 --> 00:55:11,060
My flight's not until 10.
I'll be arriving two hours early.
1014
00:55:11,352 --> 00:55:12,728
This way we can keep talking.
1015
00:55:12,937 --> 00:55:14,981
- Monsieur, can...?
- It's not on the way.
1016
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:31,622
You told him where you are
and all that?
1017
00:55:31,914 --> 00:55:33,499
Yeah.
1018
00:55:36,878 --> 00:55:39,255
- He knows where he's going?
- Yes.
1019
00:55:39,505 --> 00:55:41,340
Glad somebody does.
1020
00:55:41,549 --> 00:55:45,511
- But this is better than the Métro, right?
- Definitely.
1021
00:55:48,097 --> 00:55:52,310
I was thinking, for me it's better I don't
romanticize things as much anymore.
1022
00:55:52,685 --> 00:55:54,479
I was suffering so much all the time.
1023
00:55:54,729 --> 00:55:58,065
I still have lots of dreams,
but they're not in regard to my love life.
1024
00:55:58,441 --> 00:56:00,735
It doesn't make me sad,
it's just the way it is.
1025
00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:04,989
Is that why you're in a relationship
with somebody who's never around?
1026
00:56:05,323 --> 00:56:09,076
Yes, obviously I can't deal with
the day-to-day life of a relationship.
1027
00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:11,412
Yeah, we have this
exciting time together...
1028
00:56:11,662 --> 00:56:14,874
and he leaves and I miss him,
but at least I'm not dying inside.
1029
00:56:15,208 --> 00:56:17,502
When someone's always around me,
I'm suffocating.
1030
00:56:17,835 --> 00:56:20,588
No, wait, you just said
that you need to love and be loved.
1031
00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:23,633
Yeah, but when I do,
it quickly makes me nauseous.
1032
00:56:23,925 --> 00:56:25,301
It's a disaster.
1033
00:56:25,551 --> 00:56:28,137
I mean, I'm really happy
only when I'm on my own.
1034
00:56:28,387 --> 00:56:33,100
Even being alone, it's better than sitting
next to a lover and feeling lonely.
1035
00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:35,770
It's not so easy for me
to be a romantic.
1036
00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:39,357
You start off that way, and after
you've been screwed over a few times...
1037
00:56:39,690 --> 00:56:43,820
you forget about your delusional ideas
and you take what comes into your life.
1038
00:56:44,695 --> 00:56:47,073
That's not even true.
I haven't been screwed over...
1039
00:56:47,365 --> 00:56:49,700
I've just had too many
blah relationships.
1040
00:56:49,951 --> 00:56:51,702
They weren't mean,
they cared for me...
1041
00:56:51,953 --> 00:56:55,331
but there were no real connection
or excitement.
1042
00:56:55,623 --> 00:56:57,667
At least, not from my side.
1043
00:56:57,959 --> 00:57:00,503
God, I'm sorry, is it really that bad?
1044
00:57:00,795 --> 00:57:02,755
It's not, right?
1045
00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:06,717
You know, it's not even that.
I was...
1046
00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:10,054
I was fine until I read
your fucking book.
1047
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,265
It stirred shit up, you know?
1048
00:57:12,723 --> 00:57:15,226
It reminded me how
genuinely romantic I was...
1049
00:57:15,518 --> 00:57:17,603
how I had so much hope in things...
1050
00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:21,232
and now it's like I don't believe
in anything that relates to love.
1051
00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:23,484
I don't feel things for people anymore.
1052
00:57:24,694 --> 00:57:28,197
In a way, I put all my romanticism
into that one night...
1053
00:57:28,531 --> 00:57:30,908
and I was never able to feel
all this again.
1054
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,619
Like, somehow this night
took things away from me...
1055
00:57:33,911 --> 00:57:36,205
and I expressed them to you,
and you took them with you.
1056
00:57:36,497 --> 00:57:38,291
It made me feel cold,
like love wasn't for me.
1057
00:57:38,499 --> 00:57:41,169
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
1058
00:57:42,545 --> 00:57:46,591
You know what? Reality and love
are almost contradictory for me.
1059
00:57:46,966 --> 00:57:51,095
It's funny, every single of my exes,
they're now married.
1060
00:57:51,429 --> 00:57:54,223
Men go out with me, we break up,
and then they get married.
1061
00:57:54,515 --> 00:57:57,894
And later they call me to thank me
for teaching them what love is...
1062
00:57:58,186 --> 00:58:00,563
and that I taught them to care
and respect women.
1063
00:58:00,855 --> 00:58:03,107
- I think I'm one of those.
- I want to kill them!
1064
00:58:03,441 --> 00:58:06,903
Why didn't they ask me? I would have
said no, but they could have asked!
1065
00:58:07,236 --> 00:58:10,865
I know it's my fault because
I never felt it was the right man.
1066
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,327
Never. But what does it mean,
the right man, the love of your life?
1067
00:58:14,619 --> 00:58:17,788
The concept is absurd. We can only be
complete with another person.
1068
00:58:18,164 --> 00:58:20,458
- It's evil, right?
- Can I talk?
1069
00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:24,003
I guess I've been heartbroken
too many times and then I recovered.
1070
00:58:24,295 --> 00:58:26,797
So now, you know, from the starts,
I make no effort.
1071
00:58:27,089 --> 00:58:29,759
- I know it's not gonna work out.
- You can't do that.
1072
00:58:30,092 --> 00:58:31,886
You can't live trying to avoid pain...
1073
00:58:32,178 --> 00:58:33,888
at the expense...
- Those are words.
1074
00:58:34,138 --> 00:58:35,515
I've gotta get away from you.
1075
00:58:35,806 --> 00:58:37,850
- Stop the car, I wanna get out.
- No, don't...
1076
00:58:38,142 --> 00:58:39,936
- Keep talking.
- It's being around you.
1077
00:58:40,186 --> 00:58:42,438
Don't touch me, you know.
I want to get on a cab.
1078
00:58:45,274 --> 00:58:47,610
No, don't. No, no, keep going.
1079
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:51,280
Listen, I'm just so happy...
Thank you, just keep going.
1080
00:58:51,614 --> 00:58:53,241
All right.
1081
00:58:54,659 --> 00:58:58,246
Look, I'm just so happy,
all right, to be with you.
1082
00:58:58,579 --> 00:59:01,791
I am. I'm so glad you didn't
forget about me, okay?
1083
00:59:02,124 --> 00:59:04,710
No, I didn't.
And it pisses me off, okay?
1084
00:59:05,044 --> 00:59:08,548
You come here to Paris,
all romantic, and married.
1085
00:59:08,881 --> 00:59:10,299
Okay? Screw you.
1086
00:59:11,175 --> 00:59:13,427
Don't get me wrong,
I'm not trying to get you.
1087
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:16,097
I mean, all I need is a married man.
1088
00:59:16,806 --> 00:59:20,017
There's been so much water under
the bridge, it's not even about you.
1089
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:22,687
It's about that moment in time
that's forever gone.
1090
00:59:22,979 --> 00:59:25,773
You say that, but you didn't
even remember having sex, so...
1091
00:59:26,065 --> 00:59:28,818
Of course I remembered.
1092
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:32,363
- You did?
- Yes.
1093
00:59:32,655 --> 00:59:35,867
- Women pretend things like that.
- They do?
1094
00:59:36,242 --> 00:59:40,037
What was I supposed to say?
That I remember the wine in the park...
1095
00:59:40,371 --> 00:59:43,708
and us looking up at the stars fading
away as the sun came up?
1096
00:59:44,041 --> 00:59:47,295
We had sex twice, you idiot!
1097
00:59:48,796 --> 00:59:52,425
All right, you know what,
I'm just happy to see you.
1098
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,095
Even if you've become an angry,
manic-depressive activist...
1099
00:59:56,387 --> 00:59:59,765
I still like you,
I still enjoy being around you.
1100
01:00:00,558 --> 01:00:04,770
And I feel the same. I'm sorry.
I don't know what happened, I just...
1101
01:00:05,104 --> 01:00:07,440
- I had to let it all out.
- Don't worry about it.
1102
01:00:07,732 --> 01:00:10,234
I'm so miserable in my love life,
in my relationship.
1103
01:00:10,526 --> 01:00:13,571
I always act as...
Like, you know, I'm detached.
1104
01:00:13,863 --> 01:00:16,866
But I'm dying inside.
I'm dying because I'm so numb.
1105
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,786
I don't feel pain or excitement,
I'm not even bitter, I'm just...
1106
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,664
You think you're the one
dying inside?
1107
01:00:23,956 --> 01:00:28,002
My life is 24/7 bad.
1108
01:00:28,336 --> 01:00:29,587
- I'm sorry.
- No, no.
1109
01:00:29,837 --> 01:00:32,632
I mean, the only happiness I get
is when I'm out with my son.
1110
01:00:32,924 --> 01:00:34,509
I've been to marriage counseling...
1111
01:00:34,759 --> 01:00:37,261
I've done things I never thought
I would have to do.
1112
01:00:37,553 --> 01:00:40,389
I've lit candles,
bought self-help books, lingerie.
1113
01:00:40,681 --> 01:00:42,975
- Did the candles help?
- Hell, no.
1114
01:00:43,226 --> 01:00:45,603
I don't love her the way
she needs to be loved...
1115
01:00:45,895 --> 01:00:50,149
and I don't even see a future for us,
but then I look at my little boy...
1116
01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:53,778
sitting across from me,
and I think I'd suffer any torture...
1117
01:00:54,070 --> 01:00:56,364
to be with him for
all the minutes of his life.
1118
01:00:56,614 --> 01:00:58,407
I don't want to miss out on one.
1119
01:00:58,658 --> 01:01:02,787
But then, there's no joy or laughter
in my home, you know?
1120
01:01:03,162 --> 01:01:06,707
- I don't want him growing up in that.
- No laughter? That's terrible.
1121
01:01:07,041 --> 01:01:08,876
My parents have been
together 35 years...
1122
01:01:09,126 --> 01:01:11,379
and even when they fight
they end up laughing.
1123
01:01:11,629 --> 01:01:15,258
I don't want to be one of those people
who are getting divorced at 52...
1124
01:01:15,591 --> 01:01:19,846
and falling down into tears, admitting
they never really loved their spouse...
1125
01:01:20,179 --> 01:01:25,017
and they feel their life has been
sucked up into a vacuum cleaner.
1126
01:01:25,434 --> 01:01:28,896
You know, I want a great life.
I want her to have a great life...
1127
01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:31,274
she deserves that.
1128
01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:34,819
But we're just living in the pretense
of a marriage, responsibility...
1129
01:01:35,111 --> 01:01:38,948
you know, all these ideas
of how people are supposed to live.
1130
01:01:40,825 --> 01:01:44,537
But then I... I have these dreams...
1131
01:01:46,205 --> 01:01:47,540
What dreams?
1132
01:01:47,748 --> 01:01:51,127
I have these dreams,
you know, that...
1133
01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:53,629
I'm standing on a platform...
1134
01:01:55,006 --> 01:01:58,009
and you keep going by on a train...
1135
01:01:58,301 --> 01:02:02,513
and you go by, and you go by,
and you go by, you go by.
1136
01:02:02,889 --> 01:02:04,682
And I wake up with
the fucking sweats.
1137
01:02:04,932 --> 01:02:07,101
And then I have this other dream...
1138
01:02:07,435 --> 01:02:11,105
where you're pregnant in bed
beside me naked...
1139
01:02:11,481 --> 01:02:15,109
and I want so badly to touch you, but
you tell me not to and you look away.
1140
01:02:15,443 --> 01:02:19,780
And I... And I touch you anyway...
1141
01:02:20,114 --> 01:02:24,410
right on your ankle, and your skin is
so soft that I wake up in sobs, all right?
1142
01:02:25,328 --> 01:02:28,623
My wife is there looking at me,
and I feel I'm a million miles from her.
1143
01:02:28,956 --> 01:02:32,835
And I know that there's
something wrong, that I...
1144
01:02:33,169 --> 01:02:35,087
God, that I can't keep living like this...
1145
01:02:35,338 --> 01:02:37,757
that there's gotta be more to love
than commitment.
1146
01:02:38,090 --> 01:02:40,760
But then I think that
I might have given up...
1147
01:02:41,052 --> 01:02:42,887
on the whole idea of romantic love.
1148
01:02:43,137 --> 01:02:46,265
That I might have put it
to bed that...
1149
01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:49,227
That day when you weren't there.
1150
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:52,146
You know, I think I might
have done that.
1151
01:02:53,523 --> 01:02:55,650
Why are you telling me all this?
1152
01:02:56,609 --> 01:03:00,655
I'm sorry. I don't know.
I'm... I should...
1153
01:03:01,989 --> 01:03:03,866
I shouldn't have.
1154
01:03:04,116 --> 01:03:05,660
You know, it's so weird.
1155
01:03:05,868 --> 01:03:09,747
People think they are the only one
going through tough times.
1156
01:03:10,122 --> 01:03:14,252
I mean, when I read the article,
I thought your life was perfect.
1157
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:18,464
A wife, a kid, published author.
1158
01:03:19,257 --> 01:03:22,468
But your personal life
is more of a mess than mine.
1159
01:03:22,802 --> 01:03:25,054
I'm sorry.
1160
01:03:25,304 --> 01:03:28,266
Well, I'm glad it's good for something.
1161
01:03:31,144 --> 01:03:34,272
- This is where you live?
- Yeah.
1162
01:03:35,314 --> 01:03:39,318
So you're just relieved that I'm
in even more deep shit than you are?
1163
01:03:39,652 --> 01:03:41,445
Yes, you've made me feel better.
1164
01:03:41,696 --> 01:03:43,739
Oh, good, I'm glad.
1165
01:03:44,031 --> 01:03:46,409
No, I really wish you the best.
1166
01:03:46,659 --> 01:03:50,163
It's not because I'm incapable of having
a good relationship or a family...
1167
01:03:50,496 --> 01:03:52,540
that I wish everyone to be
doomed like me.
1168
01:03:52,790 --> 01:03:55,084
I'm sure you'd make... Be
a great mom someday.
1169
01:03:55,334 --> 01:03:56,752
- Really? You think so?
- Yeah...
1170
01:03:57,003 --> 01:04:00,006
a few antidepressants, you know,
you'll do great.
1171
01:04:00,923 --> 01:04:03,634
- Okay, say stop.
- Stop.
1172
01:04:04,218 --> 01:04:06,804
- Okay.
- You ready? Okay.
1173
01:04:17,064 --> 01:04:21,110
- So I want to try something.
- What?
1174
01:04:23,738 --> 01:04:27,867
I want to see if you stay together
or if you dissolve into molecules.
1175
01:04:29,118 --> 01:04:30,995
How am I doing?
1176
01:04:31,245 --> 01:04:33,080
Still here.
1177
01:04:33,331 --> 01:04:35,416
Good. I like being here.
1178
01:04:39,378 --> 01:04:40,880
Is this your apartment?
1179
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:42,757
No, I live down there.
1180
01:04:43,007 --> 01:04:45,176
- Down there?
- Yeah.
1181
01:04:45,426 --> 01:04:47,803
Monsieur, I'm gonna walk her
to her door.
1182
01:04:56,979 --> 01:04:58,231
This is incredible.
1183
01:04:58,481 --> 01:05:01,067
- This is where you live?
- Yeah.
1184
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:04,445
- How long have you been here?
- Four years.
1185
01:05:06,113 --> 01:05:08,199
- So tell me...
- What?
1186
01:05:08,449 --> 01:05:10,034
Is it all true about your dreams...
1187
01:05:10,284 --> 01:05:12,912
or did you say that to hopefully
get in my pants?
1188
01:05:13,204 --> 01:05:14,705
I said that to get in your pants.
1189
01:05:14,956 --> 01:05:17,375
- I use that all the time.
- Oh, okay. Does it work?
1190
01:05:17,667 --> 01:05:20,419
You know. Sometimes.
1191
01:05:21,712 --> 01:05:25,091
Here's my kitty. Oh, so cute.
Look at him.
1192
01:05:25,383 --> 01:05:27,134
You know what I love
about this cat?
1193
01:05:27,385 --> 01:05:29,554
Every morning I bring him
to the courtyard...
1194
01:05:29,887 --> 01:05:34,392
and every single morning he looks
at everything like it was the first time.
1195
01:05:34,767 --> 01:05:38,688
Every corner, every tree, every plant.
1196
01:05:39,021 --> 01:05:41,357
Smells everything
with his little cute nose.
1197
01:05:41,649 --> 01:05:45,570
Oh, I love my kitty. I love my kitty.
1198
01:05:46,988 --> 01:05:48,781
- What's his name?
- Che.
1199
01:05:49,532 --> 01:05:51,325
Che?
1200
01:05:53,077 --> 01:05:55,413
- What?
- Commie.
1201
01:05:56,956 --> 01:05:59,834
No, "che" in Argentina means "hey".
1202
01:06:00,126 --> 01:06:02,420
- Okay.
- Yes.
1203
01:06:02,712 --> 01:06:06,340
Oh, baby. Oh, yes, yes, yes.
1204
01:06:09,802 --> 01:06:13,473
We're having a little party.
It's so much fun.
1205
01:06:23,816 --> 01:06:25,568
- So...
- So.
1206
01:06:41,834 --> 01:06:46,130
You know what? I was thinking,
would you play me one of your songs?
1207
01:06:46,464 --> 01:06:48,508
- You're gonna miss your flight.
- I won't.
1208
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:51,594
I'm gonna be in the airport for
over an hour, reading...
1209
01:06:51,886 --> 01:06:54,680
wishing you'd played me
one of your songs.
1210
01:06:55,014 --> 01:06:57,099
One song? Okay, but quickly.
1211
01:06:57,391 --> 01:06:59,101
Okay.
1212
01:07:04,524 --> 01:07:07,610
God, I love these old staircases.
1213
01:07:46,023 --> 01:07:48,192
- Hold this.
- What, for me?
1214
01:07:48,484 --> 01:07:50,444
Hey there, buddy.
1215
01:07:51,612 --> 01:07:53,614
Che.
1216
01:08:05,168 --> 01:08:08,796
- Would you like some tea?
- Yeah, sure.
1217
01:08:09,463 --> 01:08:11,048
Wow.
1218
01:08:12,091 --> 01:08:15,428
- Is chamomile okay?
- Yeah. Great.
1219
01:08:15,761 --> 01:08:17,930
- Merci.
- Messy?
1220
01:08:18,181 --> 01:08:21,767
- You think my apartment is messy?
- No, no. Merci.
1221
01:08:22,101 --> 01:08:25,480
- Merci beaucoup.
- Ah, merci.
1222
01:08:25,813 --> 01:08:29,400
I meant to tell you,
your French has improved a lot.
1223
01:08:29,734 --> 01:08:30,985
- Really?
- Yeah.
1224
01:08:31,235 --> 01:08:33,738
Yeah, you've really
mastered the language.
1225
01:08:34,614 --> 01:08:37,617
All right, all right, what song
are you gonna play me?
1226
01:08:39,952 --> 01:08:42,747
No, I can't. It's too embarrassing.
It's been...
1227
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:46,584
Whoa. No way. No way. I came up here,
you cannot crap out on me now.
1228
01:08:46,918 --> 01:08:48,878
One song. Anything will be great.
1229
01:08:49,170 --> 01:08:50,880
But listen, you're gonna laugh at me.
1230
01:08:51,130 --> 01:08:52,548
- You think so?
- Yes.
1231
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,759
I doubt it.
1232
01:08:57,595 --> 01:08:58,971
Okay.
1233
01:08:59,180 --> 01:09:01,432
What do you want to hear? I have...
1234
01:09:01,724 --> 01:09:03,976
I have three songs in English.
1235
01:09:04,227 --> 01:09:05,561
One's about my cat...
1236
01:09:05,770 --> 01:09:09,690
one's about my ex-boyfriend...
Well, ex-ex-boyfriend...
1237
01:09:10,024 --> 01:09:12,401
and there's one about...
1238
01:09:12,902 --> 01:09:16,113
Well, it's just a little waltz.
1239
01:09:16,447 --> 01:09:18,491
A waltz? Yeah.
1240
01:09:18,783 --> 01:09:20,785
- Play the waltz.
- Right.
1241
01:09:21,118 --> 01:09:23,454
I haven't played it in a while.
You sure?
1242
01:09:26,874 --> 01:09:28,376
Okay.
1243
01:09:29,168 --> 01:09:31,379
All right, the waltz.
1244
01:09:43,683 --> 01:09:48,020
Let me sing you a waltz
1245
01:09:48,354 --> 01:09:52,900
Out of nowhere, out of my thoughts
1246
01:09:53,276 --> 01:09:57,655
Let me sing you a waltz
1247
01:09:57,989 --> 01:10:01,701
About this one-night stand
1248
01:10:02,952 --> 01:10:08,457
You were, for me, that night
1249
01:10:08,833 --> 01:10:14,505
Everything I always dreamt of in life
1250
01:10:14,922 --> 01:10:18,301
But now you're gone
1251
01:10:18,634 --> 01:10:22,722
You are far-gone
1252
01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:28,352
All the way to your island of rain
1253
01:10:28,728 --> 01:10:34,358
It was, for you, just a one-night thing
1254
01:10:34,775 --> 01:10:37,612
But you were much more to me
1255
01:10:37,945 --> 01:10:40,531
Just so you know
1256
01:10:41,699 --> 01:10:44,577
I don't care what they say
1257
01:10:44,869 --> 01:10:49,624
I know what you meant
For me that day
1258
01:10:49,999 --> 01:10:54,629
I just want another try
1259
01:10:55,004 --> 01:10:59,800
I just want another night
1260
01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:06,974
Even if it doesn't seem quite right
1261
01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:11,270
You meant, for me, much more
1262
01:11:11,604 --> 01:11:15,775
Than anyone I've met before
1263
01:11:16,108 --> 01:11:22,198
One single night with you, little Jesse
1264
01:11:22,615 --> 01:11:27,537
Is worth a thousand with anybody
1265
01:11:28,788 --> 01:11:31,999
I have no bitterness, my sweet
1266
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:37,380
I'll never forget this one-night thing
1267
01:11:37,755 --> 01:11:43,636
Even tomorrow, in other arms
1268
01:11:44,053 --> 01:11:49,851
My heart will stay yours until I die
1269
01:11:54,272 --> 01:11:58,860
Let me sing you a waltz
1270
01:11:59,235 --> 01:12:04,073
Out of nowhere, out of my blues
1271
01:12:04,448 --> 01:12:09,203
Let me sing you a waltz
1272
01:12:09,579 --> 01:12:14,542
About this lovely one-night stand
1273
01:12:31,893 --> 01:12:35,354
- No, one more! Please, please.
- No! It was our deal.
1274
01:12:35,730 --> 01:12:38,065
One... One song. No, no, no.
1275
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:40,860
You can have your tea and then...
1276
01:12:46,365 --> 01:12:48,659
- All right, let me ask you one question.
- What?
1277
01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:52,038
Do you just plug that name in
for every guy that comes up here?
1278
01:12:52,788 --> 01:12:54,081
Yes, of course.
1279
01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:58,211
What do you think, that I wrote
the song about you? Are you nuts?
1280
01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:05,051
Is this you? Little cross-eyed Celine?
1281
01:13:05,259 --> 01:13:07,762
- Yes. That's funny.
- Cute.
1282
01:13:09,263 --> 01:13:12,517
- Is that your grandmother?
- Yeah.
1283
01:13:14,435 --> 01:13:16,437
Oh, wow.
1284
01:13:16,896 --> 01:13:19,857
- You want some honey?
- Yeah, sure.
1285
01:14:09,657 --> 01:14:11,868
Did you ever see Nina Simone
in concert?
1286
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,620
No, I never did.
I can't believe she's gone.
1287
01:14:15,037 --> 01:14:16,497
I know, it's so sad.
1288
01:14:17,665 --> 01:14:19,083
Thanks.
1289
01:14:19,292 --> 01:14:21,210
It's hot.
1290
01:14:23,379 --> 01:14:26,090
I saw her twice in concert.
1291
01:14:26,841 --> 01:14:29,051
She was so great.
1292
01:14:29,343 --> 01:14:32,221
That's one of my favorite songs of hers.
1293
01:14:48,196 --> 01:14:49,489
She was so great.
1294
01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:53,659
She was so funny in concert too.
1295
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:57,914
She would... She would be
right in the middle of a song and then...
1296
01:14:58,247 --> 01:15:00,041
you know, stop...
1297
01:15:00,291 --> 01:15:04,212
and walk from the piano all the way
to the edge of the stage.
1298
01:15:04,545 --> 01:15:06,756
Like, really slowly.
1299
01:15:09,842 --> 01:15:13,012
And she'd start talking to someone
in the audience.
1300
01:15:13,304 --> 01:15:16,516
"Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah.
1301
01:15:17,433 --> 01:15:19,602
I love you too".
1302
01:15:20,102 --> 01:15:24,357
And then she'd walk back.
Take her time, no hurry, you know.
1303
01:15:24,732 --> 01:15:28,069
She had that big, cute ass.
1304
01:15:28,402 --> 01:15:29,862
She would move.
1305
01:15:31,656 --> 01:15:36,285
And then she would go back to the piano
and play some more, you know.
1306
01:15:37,995 --> 01:15:39,580
And then she would, I don't know...
1307
01:15:39,831 --> 01:15:42,208
just start another song
in the middle of another.
1308
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:46,128
You know, like,
stop again, and be like:
1309
01:15:46,462 --> 01:15:50,299
"You over there,
can you move that fan.
1310
01:15:51,384 --> 01:15:53,386
You're cute.
1311
01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:16,450
Oh, yeah".
1312
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:24,208
Baby, you are gonna miss that plane.
1313
01:16:25,668 --> 01:16:27,461
I know.
1314
01:20:12,436 --> 01:20:14,438
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