1 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:51,068 Do you consider the book to be autobiographical? 2 00:01:52,653 --> 00:01:54,614 Well, I mean... 3 00:01:54,864 --> 00:01:57,617 isn't everything autobiographical? 4 00:01:57,867 --> 00:02:02,163 I mean, we all see the world through our own tiny keyhole, right? 5 00:02:02,538 --> 00:02:04,373 I mean, I always think of Thomas Wolfe. 6 00:02:04,665 --> 00:02:07,793 Have you ever seen that little one-page "Note to Reader"... 7 00:02:08,085 --> 00:02:10,129 in the front of Look Homeward, Angel? 8 00:02:11,005 --> 00:02:15,718 Anyway, he says that we are the sum of all the moments of our lives... 9 00:02:16,093 --> 00:02:19,722 and anybody who sits down to write will use the clay of their own life... 10 00:02:20,056 --> 00:02:21,516 that you can't avoid that. 11 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:26,479 So when I look at my own life, I have to admit, right, that I... 12 00:02:26,979 --> 00:02:31,275 I've never been around a bunch of guns or violence, you know, not really. 13 00:02:31,692 --> 00:02:35,446 No political intrigue or a helicopter crash, right? 14 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:40,159 But my life, from my own point of view, has been full of drama, right? 15 00:02:40,952 --> 00:02:43,329 And so I thought, if I could write a book... 16 00:02:43,621 --> 00:02:47,834 that could capture what it's like to really meet somebody... 17 00:02:48,251 --> 00:02:50,795 One of the most exciting things that's happened to me... 18 00:02:51,087 --> 00:02:53,297 is to meet somebody, make that connection. 19 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:57,468 And if I could make that valuable, you know, to capture that... 20 00:02:58,302 --> 00:03:01,430 that would be the attempt, or... 21 00:03:02,139 --> 00:03:04,517 Did I answer your question? 22 00:03:05,226 --> 00:03:07,520 I'll try to be more specific. 23 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:10,690 Was there ever a French young woman on a train you met... 24 00:03:10,982 --> 00:03:13,192 and spent an evening with? 25 00:03:17,196 --> 00:03:19,991 See, to me, that... I mean... 26 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:23,619 that's not important, you know? - So that's a yes? 27 00:03:24,662 --> 00:03:28,499 All right, since I'm in France and this is the last stop of my book tour, yes. 28 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:31,210 Thank you. 29 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:34,714 Mr. Wallace, the book ends on an ambiguous note. 30 00:03:35,047 --> 00:03:36,340 We don't know. 31 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:39,051 Do you think they get back together in six months... 32 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:42,638 like they promise each other? 33 00:03:43,431 --> 00:03:45,266 Like they promised? 34 00:03:46,934 --> 00:03:49,520 I think how you answer that, you know, is... 35 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,649 It's a good test, right, if you're a romantic or a cynic. 36 00:03:53,983 --> 00:03:57,820 Right? I mean, you think they get back together, right? 37 00:03:58,154 --> 00:03:59,655 - You don't, for sure. - No. 38 00:03:59,864 --> 00:04:01,741 And you hope they do, but you're not sure. 39 00:04:02,074 --> 00:04:05,620 - That's why you're asking the question. - Do you think they get back together? 40 00:04:05,953 --> 00:04:07,997 I mean, did you in real life? 41 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:11,292 Did I in real...? 42 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:14,212 Look, in the words of my grandfather, okay: 43 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:17,465 "To answer that would take the piss out of the whole thing". 44 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:21,886 We just have the time for one last question. 45 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:23,846 What is your next book? 46 00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:28,935 I don't know, man. I don't know. 47 00:04:29,268 --> 00:04:32,563 I've been... I've been thinking about this... 48 00:04:32,897 --> 00:04:35,483 Well, I always kind of wanted to write a book... 49 00:04:35,775 --> 00:04:39,278 that all took place within the space of a pop song. 50 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:42,657 Like three or four minutes long, the whole thing. 51 00:04:42,990 --> 00:04:46,369 The story, the idea, is that there's this guy, right... 52 00:04:46,702 --> 00:04:49,288 and he's totally depressed. 53 00:04:49,622 --> 00:04:53,584 His great dream was to be a lover, an adventurer, you know... 54 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,587 riding motorcycles through South America. 55 00:04:56,921 --> 00:04:59,549 And instead he's sitting at a marble table eating lobster. 56 00:04:59,841 --> 00:05:02,802 He's got a good job and a beautiful wife, right, but that... 57 00:05:03,094 --> 00:05:06,305 Everything that he needs. But that doesn't matter... 58 00:05:06,681 --> 00:05:09,517 because what he wants is to fight for meaning. 59 00:05:09,892 --> 00:05:12,019 You know? Happiness is in the doing, right? 60 00:05:12,353 --> 00:05:14,564 Not in the getting what you want. 61 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:18,192 So he's sitting there, and just that second... 62 00:05:18,526 --> 00:05:22,613 his little 5-year-old daughter hops up on the table. 63 00:05:22,947 --> 00:05:26,075 And he knows that she should get down, because she could get hurt. 64 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:30,955 But she's dancing to this pop song in a summer dress. 65 00:05:31,789 --> 00:05:33,708 And he looks down... 66 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,419 and all of a sudden, he's 16. 67 00:05:37,336 --> 00:05:42,550 And his high-school sweetheart is dropping him off at home. 68 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:46,387 And they just lost their virginity, and she loves him... 69 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:50,516 and the same song is playing on the car radio. 70 00:05:50,933 --> 00:05:53,769 And she climbs up and starts dancing on the roof of the car. 71 00:05:54,103 --> 00:05:55,605 And now he's worried about her. 72 00:05:55,813 --> 00:05:59,901 And she's beautiful, with a facial expression just like his daughter's. 73 00:06:00,443 --> 00:06:02,528 In fact, maybe that's why he even likes her. 74 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:05,615 You see, he knows he's not remembering this dance... 75 00:06:05,948 --> 00:06:09,493 he's there. He's there, in both moments, simultaneously. 76 00:06:09,869 --> 00:06:13,164 And just for an instant, all his life is just folding in on itself. 77 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:16,083 And it's obvious to him that time is a lie. 78 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:20,838 That it's all happening all the time... 79 00:06:21,130 --> 00:06:24,550 and inside every moment is another moment... 80 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:26,719 all happening simultaneously. 81 00:06:27,011 --> 00:06:29,972 Anyway, that's kind of the idea. Anyway. 82 00:06:31,432 --> 00:06:33,726 Our author has to be going to the airport soon... 83 00:06:34,018 --> 00:06:36,812 so thank you all very much for coming over this afternoon. 84 00:06:37,146 --> 00:06:40,274 And a special thanks to Mr. Wallace for being with us. 85 00:06:40,608 --> 00:06:41,943 Thank you. Thank you. 86 00:06:42,193 --> 00:06:44,820 We hope to see you here again with your next book. 87 00:06:51,494 --> 00:06:54,705 Thank you all. How much longer before I have to go to the airport? 88 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:56,582 Oh, you should leave at 7:30... 89 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:59,377 - Seven-thirty at the very latest. - Okay. 90 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:07,510 - Hi. - Hello. 91 00:07:10,304 --> 00:07:12,890 - How are you? - Good, and you? 92 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:17,478 I'm good, yeah, I'm great. I'm... 93 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:20,648 Do you wanna, maybe, get a cup of coffee? 94 00:07:21,482 --> 00:07:23,860 Didn't he just say you have a plane to catch? 95 00:07:24,986 --> 00:07:27,780 Yeah. But, I mean, I have a little time. 96 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,450 - Okay. - Yeah? All right, well, let me... 97 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:33,744 I'll meet you outside. Okay. 98 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:37,874 Excuse me. I'm just gonna go get a cup of coffee. 99 00:07:38,207 --> 00:07:40,376 - I'll be back at 7:15. - Did you sign all these? 100 00:07:40,626 --> 00:07:43,171 - Yeah, I sure did. - Get your driver Philippe's card... 101 00:07:43,462 --> 00:07:45,840 so you can call his cell if you're running late. 102 00:07:46,174 --> 00:07:48,634 We'll put your bags in the car so you're not late. 103 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:51,387 - All right, thanks for everything. - Thank you. 104 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:55,725 Which one's Philippe? 105 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:16,913 - I can't believe you're here. - I live here in Paris. 106 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:21,667 Are you sure you don't have to stay? You're not supposed to talk more? 107 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:24,003 They're sick of me. I spent the night here. 108 00:08:24,295 --> 00:08:27,465 - You did? - Yeah, they got a loft upstairs. 109 00:08:28,007 --> 00:08:30,259 - How are you? This is so weird. - I'm fine. 110 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:34,180 - It's good to see you. - It's good to see you. 111 00:08:36,682 --> 00:08:39,018 - So you want to go to a café? - Yeah. 112 00:08:39,310 --> 00:08:41,604 Okay. There's one a little further that I like. 113 00:08:41,854 --> 00:08:45,566 I thought I was gonna totally lose it in there when I first saw you. 114 00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:47,610 How did you know I was gonna be here? 115 00:08:47,902 --> 00:08:52,073 It's my favorite bookstore in Paris. You can sit down for hours and read. 116 00:08:52,448 --> 00:08:54,367 I love it. There's fleas, but, you know... 117 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:56,869 I know. I think a cat slept on my head last night. 118 00:08:57,161 --> 00:08:59,664 I saw your picture on the calendar about a month ago... 119 00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:01,749 and that you were going to be here. 120 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:05,044 It's funny, because I read an article on your book... 121 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:09,173 and it sounded vaguely familiar. - Vaguely? Yeah. 122 00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:13,386 But I didn't put it all together until I saw your photo. So... 123 00:09:13,719 --> 00:09:15,805 Did you have a chance to read it? 124 00:09:16,097 --> 00:09:17,431 Yes, I... 125 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:20,059 I was really, really surprised, as you can imagine. 126 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:22,895 I mean, I had to read it twice, actually. 127 00:09:23,187 --> 00:09:25,147 - Yeah? - Yeah. 128 00:09:26,649 --> 00:09:29,151 No, I liked it. It's very romantic. 129 00:09:29,443 --> 00:09:31,988 I usually don't like that, but it's really well-written. 130 00:09:32,321 --> 00:09:35,199 - It's well-written. Congratulations. - All right. Thank you. 131 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:37,535 - Wait. - What? 132 00:09:37,827 --> 00:09:41,581 Before we go anywhere, I have to ask you... 133 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:43,708 Sure. What? 134 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:46,836 Did you show up in Vienna that December? 135 00:09:48,796 --> 00:09:53,009 - Did you? - No, I couldn't. But did you? 136 00:09:53,342 --> 00:09:56,554 - I need to know. It's important to me. - Why, if you didn't? 137 00:09:57,096 --> 00:09:59,015 Well, did you? 138 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:00,683 No. 139 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:03,853 Thank God you didn't. 140 00:10:04,103 --> 00:10:05,855 - Oh, my God. - Thank God you didn't. 141 00:10:06,105 --> 00:10:09,483 Thank God I didn't and you didn't. If one of us had showed up alone... 142 00:10:09,775 --> 00:10:12,069 that would have sucked. - I was so concerned. 143 00:10:12,361 --> 00:10:16,073 I felt horrible about not being there, but I couldn't. My grandma died... 144 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:18,618 and she was buried that day, December 6th. 145 00:10:18,910 --> 00:10:21,370 - The one in Budapest? - Yes. You remember that? 146 00:10:21,704 --> 00:10:24,373 - I remember everything. - Of course, it was in your book. 147 00:10:24,665 --> 00:10:27,793 But anyway, I was about to fly to Vienna, you know... 148 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:32,048 and we heard the news about her, and of course I had to go to the funeral. 149 00:10:32,381 --> 00:10:34,050 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. 150 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,887 I know. But you weren't there anyway. 151 00:10:38,262 --> 00:10:40,640 Wait. Why weren't you there? 152 00:10:40,973 --> 00:10:44,143 I would have been there if I could have. I made plans... 153 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:46,646 You better have a good reason. 154 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:48,189 What? 155 00:10:50,358 --> 00:10:51,776 Oh, no. 156 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:54,445 No, you were there, weren't you? 157 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:57,281 Oh, no, that's terrible! 158 00:10:57,615 --> 00:10:59,242 I'm laughing, but I don't mean it. 159 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:01,285 Did you hate me? You must've hated me. 160 00:11:01,536 --> 00:11:03,663 - Have you been hating me all this time? - No. 161 00:11:03,955 --> 00:11:05,248 - Yes, you have. - No. 162 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:07,250 But you can't hate me now, right? 163 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:10,503 - I mean, my grandma... - I don't hate you. It's no big deal. 164 00:11:10,878 --> 00:11:13,339 I flew all the way over there, you blew the thing off. 165 00:11:13,631 --> 00:11:16,592 My life's been a big nosedive since, but it's not a problem. 166 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:19,637 - No, I'm kidding. - Don't say that. I can't believe it. 167 00:11:19,971 --> 00:11:22,306 You must have been so angry with me. I'm so sorry. 168 00:11:22,598 --> 00:11:25,059 I wanted to be there, more than anything in the world. 169 00:11:25,309 --> 00:11:27,979 - Honestly, I swear... - You can't be angry, my grandmother... 170 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:31,774 I know. I honestly thought that something like that might have happened. 171 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:34,026 I was definitely bummed, but... 172 00:11:34,318 --> 00:11:37,864 Mostly I was mad we hadn't exchanged any phone numbers or any information. 173 00:11:38,197 --> 00:11:40,116 That was so stupid. No way to get in touch. 174 00:11:40,366 --> 00:11:42,618 - Nothing to go on. - I didn't know your last name. 175 00:11:42,869 --> 00:11:45,955 Remember, we were both afraid if we started writing and calling... 176 00:11:46,247 --> 00:11:49,625 that it would slowly fade out. - It definitely wasn't a slow fade. 177 00:11:49,959 --> 00:11:51,169 No, it sure wasn't. 178 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:53,129 We wanted to pick up where we left off. 179 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:56,591 Which would have been fine if it had worked. Oh, well. 180 00:11:58,092 --> 00:11:59,552 So... 181 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:03,264 - How long were you in Vienna, then? - Just a couple days. 182 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:07,059 Did you meet another girl? 183 00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:09,812 Yeah, her name was Gretchen and she was amazing. 184 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:12,732 The book's really a composite of the two of you. 185 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:16,694 No, I'm kidding. You wouldn't believe... I even went back to the train station. 186 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:20,990 I put up signs of my number in the hotel in case you'd been delayed. 187 00:12:21,324 --> 00:12:23,826 - I was a total dork. - Let's go this way. Did you get any calls? 188 00:12:24,327 --> 00:12:27,288 Just a couple hookers looking for a gig. 189 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:30,041 No, it was awful, I mean, what do you want me to say? 190 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:31,667 It's so sad. I'm so sorry. 191 00:12:31,959 --> 00:12:34,921 I walked around for a couple days. Eventually, I flew home. 192 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:37,381 I owed my dad 2000 bucks... 193 00:12:37,715 --> 00:12:39,634 who had warned me about French chicks. 194 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:41,719 What did he tell you about French women? 195 00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:44,013 Nothing. He's never met any French women. 196 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:46,432 He's never been east of the Mississippi. 197 00:12:46,724 --> 00:12:50,811 Why didn't you put, "Six months later, the French bitch didn't show up"? 198 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:52,647 No, but I did, I did. 199 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:55,733 - You did? - Yeah. No. I made it more hopeful. 200 00:12:56,067 --> 00:12:58,528 I wrote this fictional version where you do show up. 201 00:12:58,819 --> 00:13:01,155 - Oh, what happens? - Well... 202 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:04,116 What? 203 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:07,495 We make love for about 10 days straight, that's one part of it. 204 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:10,456 - Interesting. So the French slut, right? - Yeah, exactly. 205 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:13,167 It's just then they get to know each other better... 206 00:13:13,459 --> 00:13:15,378 and realize they don't get along at all. 207 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:18,840 - I like that. It's more real. - My editor didn't think that way. 208 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:21,175 Everyone wants to believe in love. It sells. 209 00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:23,302 Yeah, exactly, so... 210 00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:26,597 So things are going well for you, right? I mean... 211 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:30,017 - Your book is a bestseller in the U.S. - It's a tiny bestseller. 212 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:32,270 - Oh, come on. - All right. Officially, yes. 213 00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:35,565 Most people haven't read Moby Dick. Why should they read my book? 214 00:13:35,857 --> 00:13:37,984 I haven't read Moby Dick and I liked your book. 215 00:13:38,276 --> 00:13:40,486 - Thanks. - Even though... 216 00:13:40,778 --> 00:13:43,406 I thought you idealized the night of it. 217 00:13:43,739 --> 00:13:45,366 Come on, it's fiction, right? 218 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:47,201 - I'm supposed to... - I know, I know. 219 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:50,580 I know. I thought there were times where you made me... 220 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:55,126 Well, I mean, her, right? No, me. Okay, whatever. 221 00:13:55,459 --> 00:13:58,421 - A little bit neurotic. - You are a bit like that, aren't you? 222 00:13:58,754 --> 00:14:01,883 - You think I'm neurotic? - No, no, no. Come on, I'm kidding. 223 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:03,968 Where did I do that? I didn't do that. 224 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:06,804 Oh, maybe it's just me, you know... 225 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:10,016 Reading something, knowing the character is based on you... 226 00:14:10,349 --> 00:14:12,935 it's both flattering and disturbing at the same time. 227 00:14:13,227 --> 00:14:14,687 How is it disturbing? 228 00:14:14,937 --> 00:14:18,941 I don't know. Just being part of someone else's memory. 229 00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:21,819 Seeing myself through your eyes. 230 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:24,447 How long did it take you to write it? 231 00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,200 Three or four years, on and off. 232 00:14:27,491 --> 00:14:30,536 Wow, that's a really long time to be writing about one night. 233 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,456 Yeah, I know. Tell me about it. 234 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:36,209 I always assumed you had forgotten me. 235 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:39,378 No, I had a pretty clear picture of you in my mind. 236 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:41,964 - I have to tell you something. I just... - What? 237 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:45,885 I've wanted to talk to you for so long that now... It's just surreal, you know? 238 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:47,929 I feel like everything should be... 239 00:14:48,179 --> 00:14:50,473 How long do we have? Twenty minutes and 30 seconds? 240 00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:53,017 We got more than that. I wanna know about you. 241 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,853 Tell me, what are you doing? What are you up to? 242 00:14:56,145 --> 00:15:00,608 Where to start? I work for Green Cross. It's an environmental organization. 243 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:02,235 What are they all about? 244 00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:04,987 We basically work on different environment issues... 245 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,782 from clean water to disarmament of chemical weapons. 246 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:10,451 International laws that deal with the environment. 247 00:15:10,701 --> 00:15:12,954 - What do you do for them? - We're going this way. 248 00:15:13,496 --> 00:15:14,747 Different things. 249 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:18,751 Like, last year I was in India for a while, working on a water-treatment plant. 250 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:22,922 Well, the cotton industry there is a major source of pollution, so... 251 00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:26,008 I mean, it sounds like you're actually doing something. 252 00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:29,637 Most people, myself included, just sit around and bitch. 253 00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:34,433 You know, how America's consuming all the world's resources, SUVs suck... 254 00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:36,102 global warming is real... 255 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:39,647 I'm relieved to hear you're not one of those "freedom fries" Americans. 256 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,233 Hey, you know... But how'd you get into that? 257 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:45,695 I came out of political science, hoping to work for the government. 258 00:15:46,028 --> 00:15:48,656 - And I did for a little while. Terrible. - Not good? 259 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,410 Yeah, no. Anyway, I got really tired... Let's go this way. 260 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,996 Having this endless conversation with friends... 261 00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:57,415 about how the world was falling to pieces. 262 00:15:57,707 --> 00:16:00,001 So I decided what I really wanted to do was... 263 00:16:00,334 --> 00:16:03,504 to find things that could be fixed and try to fix them, you know? 264 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,466 You know, I always thought you'd be doing something cool like that. I did. 265 00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:12,555 Thanks. I just feel really, really lucky to be doing a job I like, you know? 266 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,348 Yeah. 267 00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:19,145 I actually alternate in between thinking everything is irrevocably screwed up... 268 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,731 and things might be getting better in ways. 269 00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:24,317 Better? How could you possibly say that? 270 00:16:24,609 --> 00:16:26,319 Well, I just mean, you know, like... 271 00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:30,072 I know it sounds weird, but there are things to be optimistic about. 272 00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:34,952 Okay... I know your book is selling, which is great, I'm very happy for you. 273 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,498 But let me break the news to you: The world is a mess right now. 274 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,250 From a Western view, things are getting a bit better. 275 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,962 We're moving industry to developing nations where we can get cheap labor... 276 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:48,424 free of any environmental laws. The weapon industry is booming. 277 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,594 Five million people die a year from preventable water disease. 278 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:54,805 How is the world getting better? I'm not angry, I'm not angry. 279 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:57,099 But come on, I want to know. I'm interested. 280 00:16:57,433 --> 00:17:00,811 I realize that there are a lot of serious problems in the world. 281 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,272 - Okay. Thank you. - I mean, I don't even have... 282 00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:06,859 one publisher in the Asian market. - Okay. All right. 283 00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:10,488 - Say stop. - What? Stop. 284 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,534 Look, all I'm saying is there's more awareness. People are gonna fight back. 285 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,745 The world might be getting better because people like you... 286 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,580 are educated and speaking out. 287 00:17:20,122 --> 00:17:23,334 Even the very notion of conservation, environmental issues... 288 00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:25,962 weren't in the vocabulary till fairly recently. 289 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:30,132 And they're becoming the norm and eventually might be what's expected. 290 00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:33,302 I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time it's dangerous. 291 00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:36,180 An imperialist country can use that kind of thinking... 292 00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:38,558 to justify their economic greed. 293 00:17:40,101 --> 00:17:43,980 Is there any particular imperialist country you have in mind, there, Frenchie? 294 00:17:44,313 --> 00:17:46,440 - No, not really. - No? 295 00:17:51,946 --> 00:17:55,324 - So you wanna sit over there? - Yeah, this is perfect. 296 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,494 Oh, wow. Maybe what I'm saying is... 297 00:17:58,786 --> 00:18:01,581 the world might be evolving the way a person evolves. 298 00:18:01,873 --> 00:18:04,792 Like, I mean, me, for example. Am I getting worse? 299 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:09,130 Am I improving? I don't know. When I was younger, I was healthier... 300 00:18:09,463 --> 00:18:11,841 but I was wracked with insecurity, you know? 301 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:14,594 Now I'm older and my problems are deeper... 302 00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:16,637 but I'm more equipped to handle them. 303 00:18:17,471 --> 00:18:19,557 So, what are your problems? 304 00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:25,479 Right now I don't have any. I don't, you know? I'm just... 305 00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,523 damn happy to be here. 306 00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:29,525 Me too. 307 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,780 So how long have you been in Paris? 308 00:18:35,072 --> 00:18:38,367 I got in last night. I've done 10 cities in 2 days. 309 00:18:38,701 --> 00:18:40,912 I'm wrecked. I'm so glad it's over, you know? 310 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:42,622 I'm tired of being a huckster. 311 00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:44,707 - Hi. - Hello. 312 00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,459 What do you want? 313 00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:48,586 A cup of coffee. 314 00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:56,010 God, I love this café. I wish they had places like this in the U.S. 315 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,013 Yeah, I missed cafés when I was living over there. 316 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:02,058 I mean, I find a few places I really liked, but there was... 317 00:19:02,391 --> 00:19:06,229 - You were living in the U.S.? - Yes, from '96 to '99. 318 00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:08,105 I was studying at NYU. 319 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:11,067 Oh, God, don't tell me that, Celine. 320 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,361 - What? - No, it's just... 321 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,279 - Nothing, I mean, I... - What? 322 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:18,741 I've been living in New York since '98. We were there at the same time. 323 00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:20,618 - In New York? - Yeah. 324 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:25,373 That's weird. It actually crossed my mind a few times that I might run into you... 325 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:27,917 but the odds are so slim, right? So... 326 00:19:28,626 --> 00:19:30,419 I didn't even know what city you were in. 327 00:19:30,711 --> 00:19:34,090 - Weren't you somewhere in Texas? - Yeah, yeah, definitely. I just... 328 00:19:34,423 --> 00:19:37,760 I was for a long time. I just, you know, wanted to try New York. 329 00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:41,556 What brought you back here? 330 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,766 I had finished my master's, for one... 331 00:19:44,058 --> 00:19:46,143 and no visa, no more visa. 332 00:19:46,477 --> 00:19:50,690 And I was starting to get paranoid. All the violence in the medias: 333 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:54,110 Gang violence, murders, especially serial killers... 334 00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:57,488 But the final straw was... 335 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,533 one night I heard some noise on my fire escape... 336 00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:03,327 so I called 911, and the cops came eventually. 337 00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:06,956 - Like three hours later. - Yeah, after I had been raped and killed. 338 00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:10,126 No, but it was a man and a woman officer. 339 00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:12,378 I was explaining what I had heard... 340 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:14,881 when the woman had to go move the police car. 341 00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:16,757 I was left alone with the male cop. 342 00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:21,262 Right away he asked me if I had a gun, and I said, "No, of course not". 343 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,432 And he told me, "Well, you better think about getting one. 344 00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:27,977 This is America, not France. Okay?" 345 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:31,230 And I said to him, "I have no idea how to shoot a gun... 346 00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:33,983 and I have no interest in firearms whatsoever". 347 00:20:34,317 --> 00:20:37,945 And that's when he pulled out his gun, like this, and he went: 348 00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:43,576 "Well, one day, you're gonna have something like this in your face... 349 00:20:44,035 --> 00:20:46,287 and if you wanna have a long life... 350 00:20:46,954 --> 00:20:50,583 you're gonna have to choose between you or them". 351 00:20:51,834 --> 00:20:56,047 And then they left. And the next morning I called for an application to get a gun. 352 00:20:56,422 --> 00:20:58,799 Me with a gun. I mean, that's really scary. 353 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,177 But then I realized something was wrong. 354 00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:04,847 The way that cop had pulled his gun out, and everything, right? 355 00:21:05,223 --> 00:21:06,974 So I canceled my demand for the gun... 356 00:21:07,225 --> 00:21:10,186 and I called the police and tried to complain about that cop. 357 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,980 - What happened with that? - It was so much paperwork... 358 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,983 and then I got scared, with my shitty student visa... 359 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,611 - Thought you'd get deported? - Exactly. I gave up... 360 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:20,571 and forgot about the whole thing. 361 00:21:20,863 --> 00:21:24,283 - Well, I guess I never forgot. - Obviously. 362 00:21:24,659 --> 00:21:27,078 But still, you know, I really enjoyed being there. 363 00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:30,414 - There's lots of things I miss in the U.S. - Yeah? Like what? 364 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,001 Well... 365 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,671 The overall good mood people have there. 366 00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,006 Like, even if it can be bullshit sometimes. 367 00:21:39,257 --> 00:21:41,926 Like, "How you doing?" "Great". "How you doing?" "Great!" 368 00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:44,512 "Have a great day!" 369 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:48,474 I don't know. Parisians can be so grumpy. Have you noticed? 370 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:51,352 No, everybody seems pretty happy to me. 371 00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:54,981 - They're not happy. No. - They're not happy? 372 00:21:55,273 --> 00:21:58,526 No, they are. I don't know. I just mean French men. They drive me nuts. 373 00:21:58,860 --> 00:22:00,152 What is it? What about them? 374 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:03,447 Well, they're very nice. They're great, you know, to be around. 375 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,700 They love food, wine, they're great cooks. 376 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,869 But I've had really bad luck with them. 377 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,662 Why? What do you mean? 378 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:13,457 - Well, I guess they're not as... - What? 379 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:15,334 What's the word? 380 00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:19,547 - Horny? They're not as horny. - Horny? 381 00:22:19,922 --> 00:22:24,051 Wait, listen to me on this one. In that regard, I am proud to be an American. 382 00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:26,220 And you should be. In that regard only. 383 00:22:27,471 --> 00:22:29,390 Have you ever spent time in Eastern Europe? 384 00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,310 Eastern... No, I don't. Thank you. 385 00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:35,980 I remember as a teenager I went to Warsaw... 386 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:38,691 when it was still a strict communist regime. 387 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:41,235 - Which I don't approve of at all. - Sure you don't. 388 00:22:41,569 --> 00:22:43,487 - No, I don't. - I'm just kidding. 389 00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:46,532 But anyway, something about being there was very interesting. 390 00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,952 After a couple of weeks, something changed in me. 391 00:22:50,244 --> 00:22:53,289 The city was quite gloomy and gray... 392 00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:56,209 but after a while, my brain seemed clearer. 393 00:22:56,501 --> 00:22:58,085 I was writing more in my journal... 394 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,380 ideas I'd never thought of before... - Communist ideas? 395 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:03,841 - Listen, I'm not... - I'm sorry, I... 396 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:05,801 - Okay. - Go on. 397 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,554 Okay. I'll send you to a gulag later. 398 00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:12,141 No. But it took me a while to figure out why I felt so different. 399 00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:15,061 One day, as I was walking through the Jewish cemetery... 400 00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:17,146 I don't know why, but it occurred to me there... 401 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:21,108 I realized that I had spent the last two weeks away from most of my habits. 402 00:23:21,442 --> 00:23:23,361 TV was in a language I didn't understand... 403 00:23:23,611 --> 00:23:26,239 there was nothing to buy, no advertisements anywhere... 404 00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:28,074 so all I'd been doing was... 405 00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:32,870 walk around, think, and write. My brain felt like it was at rest... 406 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:36,707 free from the consuming frenzy. It was almost like a natural high. 407 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:41,420 I felt so peaceful inside. No strange urge to be somewhere else... 408 00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:43,130 to shop... 409 00:23:43,381 --> 00:23:45,383 It could have seemed like boredom at first... 410 00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:47,385 but it became very, very soulful. 411 00:23:48,469 --> 00:23:49,971 It was interesting, you know? 412 00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:53,349 Can you believe it was nine years ago we were walking around Vienna? 413 00:23:54,016 --> 00:23:57,562 - Nine years? No, that's impossible. - No, it was. It feels like two months. 414 00:23:57,937 --> 00:23:59,772 But it was summer '94. 415 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:04,277 Do I look any different? 416 00:24:05,945 --> 00:24:07,613 I do? 417 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,657 I'd have to see you naked. 418 00:24:10,074 --> 00:24:11,951 - What? - I know, I'm sorry. 419 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:14,537 Your hair was different back then. It was like... 420 00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:17,081 - It's the same... Oh, down. - Yeah, take it down. 421 00:24:17,373 --> 00:24:19,041 Down. Okay, it was down. Okay. 422 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,419 Well? Voilà. 423 00:24:21,752 --> 00:24:23,212 So? 424 00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:26,674 Okay, come on. Tell me. 425 00:24:30,761 --> 00:24:33,222 Skinnier, I think. A little thinner. 426 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,892 Did you think I was fat before? 427 00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:38,936 - No... - Yeah, you thought I was a fatty. 428 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:43,149 No, you thought I was a fatty. You wrote a book about a fat French girl. 429 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:45,318 - No, listen. - Oh, no. 430 00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:47,653 Seriously, all right? You look beautiful. 431 00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,822 Do I look any different? 432 00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:53,659 No. Not at all. Actually, you have this line. 433 00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:56,370 - I know. - It's like a scar. 434 00:24:56,662 --> 00:25:00,875 - A scar? Like a gunshot wound? - No, no, no. I like it. I'm sorry. 435 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:07,006 I had this funny... Well, horrible dream the other day. 436 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:12,136 I was having this awful nightmare that I was 32. 437 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:15,556 And then I woke up, and I was 23. So relieved. 438 00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:18,351 And then I woke up for real, and I was 32. 439 00:25:18,684 --> 00:25:21,020 - Shit, man. It happens. - Scary. 440 00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,940 Time goes faster and faster. Apparently, it's because... 441 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:27,485 we don't renew synapses after our 20s, so it's downhill from then on. 442 00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:31,697 I like getting older, you know? Life feels... 443 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:35,535 I don't know, it feels more immediate. Like I can appreciate things more. 444 00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:38,996 No, me too, actually. I really love it. 445 00:25:39,580 --> 00:25:41,290 I was once... 446 00:25:41,582 --> 00:25:42,917 a drummer in a band. 447 00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:45,628 - You were? - Yeah. We were pretty good, actually. 448 00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:50,007 But the lead-singer guy, he was just so obsessed with us getting a record deal. 449 00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:53,177 It's all we talked about, thought about, getting bigger shows. 450 00:25:53,511 --> 00:25:56,889 Everything was just focused on the future all the time. And now... 451 00:25:57,181 --> 00:25:58,975 the band doesn't even exist anymore. 452 00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:01,477 And looking back at the shows we did play... 453 00:26:01,769 --> 00:26:04,564 even rehearsing, it was just so much fun. 454 00:26:04,856 --> 00:26:08,860 I just... Now I'd enjoy every minute of it. Could I have a drag of that? 455 00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:12,238 Well, your book has been published. That's a pretty big deal. 456 00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:15,700 You've been all around Europe. Are you enjoying every minute of it? 457 00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:18,327 - Not really. - Not really? 458 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:19,912 No. 459 00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:23,082 - Do you have another one of those? - Yes, of course. 460 00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:26,752 Here. 461 00:26:27,712 --> 00:26:30,715 In my field, I see these people that... Oh, sorry. 462 00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:33,467 Come into it with big, idealist visions... 463 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,387 of becoming the leader that will create a better world. 464 00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:38,806 They enjoy the goal, but not the process. 465 00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:40,892 - Right. - But the reality of it is... 466 00:26:41,142 --> 00:26:44,395 the true work of improving things is in the little achievements. 467 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:47,607 - That's what you need to enjoy. - What do you mean, exactly? 468 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:51,360 I was working for this organization that helped villages in Mexico. 469 00:26:52,195 --> 00:26:54,614 And their concerns was how to get the pencils... 470 00:26:54,864 --> 00:26:57,158 sent to the kid in those little country schools. 471 00:26:57,450 --> 00:27:01,120 It was not about big, revolutionary ideas. It was about pencils. 472 00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:04,957 I see the people that do the real work, and what's really sad is that... 473 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,919 the people that are the most giving, hardworking... 474 00:27:08,211 --> 00:27:10,338 and capable of making this world better... 475 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,633 usually don't have the ego and ambition to be a leader. 476 00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:16,469 They don't see any interest in superficial rewards. 477 00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,722 They don't care if their name ever appear in the press. 478 00:27:20,056 --> 00:27:22,725 They actually enjoy the process of helping others. 479 00:27:23,059 --> 00:27:25,645 - They're in the moment. - Yeah, but that's so hard... 480 00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:28,731 you know, to be in the moment. I mean, I feel like I'm... 481 00:27:29,023 --> 00:27:32,860 designed to be slightly dissatisfied with everything, you know? 482 00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:35,613 It's like always trying to better my situation. 483 00:27:35,905 --> 00:27:39,200 I satisfy one desire, and it just agitates another. 484 00:27:39,534 --> 00:27:42,912 And then I think, to hell with it, right? Desire's the fuel of life. 485 00:27:43,246 --> 00:27:45,957 You know? Do you think it's true... 486 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:49,085 that if we never wanted anything, we'd never be unhappy? 487 00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:54,257 I don't know. Not wanting anything, isn't that a symptom of depression? 488 00:27:54,632 --> 00:27:58,135 Yeah, that is, right? I mean, it's healthy to desire, right? 489 00:27:58,469 --> 00:28:01,931 Yeah. I don't know. It's what all those Buddhist guys say, right? 490 00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,600 Liberate yourself from desire, and you'll find... 491 00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:07,937 you already have everything you need. - But I feel alive... 492 00:28:08,271 --> 00:28:10,940 when I want something more than basic survival needs. 493 00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:13,943 Wanting, whether it's intimacy with another person... 494 00:28:14,277 --> 00:28:15,945 or a pair of shoes, is beautiful. 495 00:28:16,237 --> 00:28:19,657 I like that we have those ever-renewing desires, you know? 496 00:28:19,991 --> 00:28:21,659 Maybe it's this sense of entitlement. 497 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:25,538 You know, like whenever you feel like you deserve that new pair of shoes? 498 00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:29,542 It's okay to want things, as long as you aren't pissed off if you don't get them. 499 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:31,711 Life's hard. It's supposed to be. 500 00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:34,881 If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't learn a thing, you know? 501 00:28:36,382 --> 00:28:38,217 So, what, are you Buddhist, or something? 502 00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:41,929 - No. - No? Why not? 503 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:47,018 I don't know. The same reason I don't really consider myself anything, really. 504 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,855 I decided a long time ago that I was gonna be open to everything... 505 00:28:51,189 --> 00:28:53,566 but not buy into any one and only belief system. 506 00:28:55,318 --> 00:28:58,321 I went to this Trappist monastery a couple years ago. 507 00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:02,700 - Trappist? - Yeah, they're Catholic. Cistercian. 508 00:29:03,159 --> 00:29:06,621 - Why did you do that? - Why? I'd been doing some reading. 509 00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:10,666 Thought it'd be cool. Have you ever spent any time with monks or nuns? 510 00:29:11,167 --> 00:29:14,378 - No. It's not really my style. - No? 511 00:29:15,296 --> 00:29:19,175 Well, I expected them to be all glowering and stern, but they weren't. 512 00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:22,011 They were quick to laugh, really easy to be around. 513 00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:25,223 Seriously, very attuned to everything, they were just... 514 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:27,934 You know, they weren't trying to hustle anybody. 515 00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:30,603 They're trying to live and die in peace with God... 516 00:29:30,937 --> 00:29:33,314 or whatever part of them they feel is eternal. 517 00:29:33,648 --> 00:29:35,525 It was just so refreshing to be around. 518 00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:38,152 You realize that most of the people that you meet... 519 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,154 are trying to get somewhere better. 520 00:29:40,404 --> 00:29:43,491 They're trying to make more cash, get a little more respect... 521 00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:46,118 have more people admire them. It's exhausting. 522 00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:49,455 - No kidding. - And it's exhausting to be one yourself. 523 00:29:49,789 --> 00:29:53,000 There I am, right, you know, all greedy to be more spiritual. 524 00:29:53,334 --> 00:29:56,754 "I want to be a better person," you know? You can't escape. 525 00:29:57,088 --> 00:30:03,010 I had this boyfriend of mine many years ago that wanted to be a Buddhist. 526 00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,097 So he went to Asia to visit some of those monasteries. 527 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:09,934 - I've thought about doing that too. - Yeah, you should. I'll tell you why. 528 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:13,563 He was good-looking, and each time he went to one of the monasteries... 529 00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:16,357 a monk offered to suck his cock. 530 00:30:16,691 --> 00:30:18,317 True story. 531 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,654 It all comes down to that, doesn't it? 532 00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:24,031 That's why I really admire what you're doing. 533 00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:26,409 - You know? - What do you mean? Sucking cock? 534 00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:29,704 - No. - No? Wrong answer. 535 00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:33,666 No, I was gonna say you're not detached from life. 536 00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:36,377 You're putting your passion into action. 537 00:30:36,669 --> 00:30:39,255 Well, I try. 538 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:43,217 You know something? I'm gonna be on planes... 539 00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,720 and in an airport for the next eight hours... 540 00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:48,306 I'd just love to see a little bit more of Paris. 541 00:30:48,723 --> 00:30:50,141 - Would you walk with me? - Yeah. 542 00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:51,642 - Do you mind? - That's great. 543 00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:53,728 - Do you want to? - Let's do that. Yeah. 544 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:55,771 What do we owe here? Four-fifty? 545 00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:58,482 No, I got it, I got a little per diem going on here. 546 00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:00,902 - This good, for a tip? - Yeah, that's fine. 547 00:31:01,235 --> 00:31:03,488 - That's more than enough. - Throw that in too. 548 00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:07,158 - Is there anywhere to go around here? - It's sales day today. 549 00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:10,328 - What's that? - It's when everything's on sale in Paris. 550 00:31:10,953 --> 00:31:12,330 It's twice a year. 551 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,501 All right, let's go shopping. 552 00:31:16,709 --> 00:31:19,712 No, no, no. That's a bad idea. I don't wanna inflict that on you. 553 00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:23,799 It's madness. Let's just go to this garden path. It's really nice. 554 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:26,594 All right. That sounds better than shopping, actually. 555 00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:28,930 Not that I wouldn't do whatever you wanted. 556 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:32,058 Sometimes I don't even need to buy anything. I just get high... 557 00:31:32,350 --> 00:31:34,060 on trying on and looking at things. 558 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:36,020 Is this where we're going? 559 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,439 - Yeah. - A therapist will tell you that's good. 560 00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,942 - Really? Are you ever in therapy? - Oh, no. 561 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:44,195 - Do I seem like I'm in therapy? - I'm kidding. 562 00:31:44,737 --> 00:31:48,407 - Does it help your sex problems? - My sex problems? 563 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:50,201 - I'm kidding. - Tell me the truth. 564 00:31:50,493 --> 00:31:52,620 - We didn't have any problems. - No, I'm kidding. 565 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:55,331 - We didn't even have sex. - That's a joke, right? 566 00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:58,209 No, we didn't. I mean, that was the whole thing. 567 00:31:58,459 --> 00:32:00,419 - Of course we did. - No, no, no, we didn't. 568 00:32:00,711 --> 00:32:03,381 You didn't have a condom and I never have sex without one. 569 00:32:03,714 --> 00:32:05,508 I'm extremely paranoid. There's no way... 570 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,261 I find it scary that you don't remember what happened. 571 00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:09,846 No, listen... 572 00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,640 I didn't write an entire book, but I kept a journal... 573 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:16,769 and I wrote the whole night in it. That's what I meant, you idealizing it. 574 00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:20,189 All right, listen, I even remember what brand of condom we used. 575 00:32:20,523 --> 00:32:22,358 That's disgusting. I don't wanna hear it. 576 00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:25,027 - That's not disgusting. - No. 577 00:32:25,403 --> 00:32:29,740 Okay, when I get home I'll check my journal from '94, but I know I'm right. 578 00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:34,620 - Wait a minute. - What? 579 00:32:34,871 --> 00:32:37,540 - Was it in the cemetery? - No. 580 00:32:37,832 --> 00:32:40,126 No, we went to the cemetery in the afternoon. 581 00:32:40,376 --> 00:32:43,171 It was in the park, very late at night. 582 00:32:43,671 --> 00:32:45,756 - In the park? - Wait a minute, wait a minute. 583 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,758 I can't... I can't... 584 00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,929 Is it that forgettable? You really don't remember? In the park? 585 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,016 Okay. Wait a minute, I think you might be right... 586 00:32:55,308 --> 00:32:56,601 You're messing with me now. 587 00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:58,144 - No. - Are you messing with me? 588 00:32:58,436 --> 00:33:01,480 Okay. No, I'm sorry. I think... I mean, you're right, okay? 589 00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:05,109 Sometimes I put things in drawers inside my head and forget about it. 590 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:08,029 It's less painful to put things away than live with it. 591 00:33:08,362 --> 00:33:10,948 What, so that night was, like, a sad memory for you? 592 00:33:11,282 --> 00:33:13,034 I didn't mean that night in particular. 593 00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:15,286 I meant certain things are better forgotten. 594 00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:17,955 I remember that night better than I do entire years. 595 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:19,999 - Me too. - Really? 596 00:33:20,249 --> 00:33:22,335 Well, I thought I did. 597 00:33:25,046 --> 00:33:28,549 But maybe I... Maybe I put it away because of the fact that... 598 00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:31,886 my grandmother's funeral was the day we were supposed to meet. 599 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:35,056 It was a tough day for me, but it must've been worse for you. 600 00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:39,810 It was unreal. I remember looking at her dead body in the coffin... 601 00:33:40,144 --> 00:33:44,357 at her beautiful hands, so warm, so sweet, that used to hold me... 602 00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:48,152 but nothing in that coffin resembled what I remembered of her. 603 00:33:48,486 --> 00:33:49,987 All the warmth was gone. 604 00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,990 And then I was crying, so confused if I was crying... 605 00:33:53,282 --> 00:33:58,621 because I was never gonna see her again or never gonna see you again... 606 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,750 I'm sorry. I'm sorry to go on like this. I've been a little down this week. 607 00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:06,003 - Why? - I don't know. Nothing bad, just... 608 00:34:06,337 --> 00:34:08,214 Reading your book, maybe? 609 00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:12,176 No, but... Thinking of how hopeful I was that summer and fall... 610 00:34:12,552 --> 00:34:14,679 and since then it's been kind of a... 611 00:34:15,346 --> 00:34:16,681 I don't know. 612 00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:20,935 Memory is a wonderful thing if you don't have to deal with the past. 613 00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:26,524 "Memory is wonderful if you don't have to deal with the past". 614 00:34:26,816 --> 00:34:28,401 Can I put that on a bumper sticker? 615 00:34:28,651 --> 00:34:31,237 If you wrote a book about our night, that's a good title. 616 00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:35,241 - And it could be a total different book. - Yeah, there'd be no sex scenes. 617 00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:37,285 - But you know what? - What? 618 00:34:37,535 --> 00:34:38,828 Now that we've met again... 619 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,622 we can change our memory of that December 6. 620 00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:45,209 It no longer has that sad ending of us never seeing each other again. 621 00:34:45,543 --> 00:34:49,797 Right. I mean, I guess a memory's never finished as long as you're alive. 622 00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:53,634 Yeah, I know. I have this memory from my childhood... 623 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:56,470 I realized recently never happened. - What? 624 00:34:56,762 --> 00:34:59,599 Well, when I was 8 or 9, my mom was so paranoid... 625 00:34:59,891 --> 00:35:02,643 when I was walking home from my piano lesson at night... 626 00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:05,521 she'd warn me about dirty old men giving me candies... 627 00:35:05,813 --> 00:35:07,565 and then showing me their pee-pees. 628 00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:10,776 She was so obsessed with it that, later in life, you know... 629 00:35:11,068 --> 00:35:14,363 I had this image in my head that this really happened. 630 00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:18,034 To the point that I even associated sex with that walk home. 631 00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:21,913 I mean, and sometimes, even now, when I'm... 632 00:35:22,955 --> 00:35:26,751 When I'm having sex, I see myself walking down that street. 633 00:35:27,084 --> 00:35:28,920 I swear. It's so weird, right? 634 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:33,216 - Is that street nearby? I mean, could...? - Could we? No. 635 00:35:33,549 --> 00:35:35,676 Very far. 636 00:35:36,928 --> 00:35:39,347 Did you ever keep a journal when you were a kid? 637 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,850 Yeah. On and off, I guess. 638 00:35:43,142 --> 00:35:45,186 It's funny, I read one of mine... 639 00:35:45,478 --> 00:35:47,271 from '83 the other day. - Yeah? 640 00:35:47,688 --> 00:35:49,273 And what really surprised me is... 641 00:35:49,524 --> 00:35:52,318 that I was dealing with life the same way I am now. 642 00:35:52,652 --> 00:35:54,570 I was much more hopeful and naive... 643 00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:58,908 but the core, and the way I was feeling things, is exactly the same. 644 00:35:59,283 --> 00:36:01,536 It made me realize I haven't changed much at all. 645 00:36:01,786 --> 00:36:03,204 I don't think anybody does. 646 00:36:03,454 --> 00:36:07,083 People don't want to admit it, but it's like we have these innate set points... 647 00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:10,878 and nothing much that happens to us changes our disposition. 648 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,588 - You believe that? - I think so. 649 00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:16,050 I read this study where they followed people who'd won the lottery... 650 00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:18,135 and people who'd become paraplegics. 651 00:36:18,386 --> 00:36:22,348 You'd think one extreme is gonna make you euphoric and the other suicidal. 652 00:36:22,723 --> 00:36:25,309 But the study shows that, after about six months... 653 00:36:25,601 --> 00:36:28,771 as soon as people had gotten used to their new situation... 654 00:36:29,063 --> 00:36:31,274 they were, more or less, the same. - The same? 655 00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:34,652 Yeah. Like, if they were basically an optimistic, jovial person... 656 00:36:34,944 --> 00:36:37,697 they're now an optimistic, jovial person in a wheelchair. 657 00:36:37,989 --> 00:36:39,866 If they're a petty, miserable asshole... 658 00:36:40,116 --> 00:36:43,911 they're a petty, miserable asshole with a new Cadillac, a house and a boat. 659 00:36:44,245 --> 00:36:47,456 So I'll be forever depressed no matter what great things happen? 660 00:36:47,748 --> 00:36:49,083 - Definitely. - Great. 661 00:36:49,292 --> 00:36:50,918 No, come on, are you depressed now? 662 00:36:51,169 --> 00:36:53,379 No, no, I'm not depressed. 663 00:36:53,629 --> 00:36:56,215 But sometimes I worry I'll get to the end of my life... 664 00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:59,844 feeling I haven't done all I wanted to. - Well, what do you want to do? 665 00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:01,804 I... 666 00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:04,974 I want to paint more, I want to play my guitar every day. 667 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:08,311 I want to learn Chinese. I want to write more songs. 668 00:37:08,644 --> 00:37:12,815 There's so many things I want to do, and I end up doing not much. 669 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:19,489 All right, well, let me ask you this: Do you believe in ghosts or spirits? 670 00:37:19,906 --> 00:37:21,240 No. 671 00:37:21,449 --> 00:37:22,700 - No? - No. 672 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:26,579 - Okay, what about reincarnation? - Not at all. 673 00:37:26,871 --> 00:37:28,748 - God? - No. 674 00:37:28,998 --> 00:37:31,417 - All right. - That sounds terrible. No, no, no. 675 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:35,421 But I don't want to be one of those people that don't believe in any magic. 676 00:37:35,755 --> 00:37:37,590 - So then, astrology? - Yes, of course! 677 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,592 - There we go. - That makes sense, right? 678 00:37:39,842 --> 00:37:43,137 You're a Scorpio, I'm a Sag, we get along. 679 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:45,932 No, no, no. 680 00:37:46,182 --> 00:37:49,060 There's an Einstein quote I really, really like. 681 00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:52,772 He said, "If you don't believe in any kind of magic or mystery... 682 00:37:53,064 --> 00:37:55,816 you're basically as good as dead". - Yeah, I like that. 683 00:37:56,067 --> 00:37:59,278 I've always felt there was some kind of mystical core to the universe. 684 00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:04,575 But, more recently, I've started to think that, me, my personality, whatever... 685 00:38:04,951 --> 00:38:07,912 That I don't have any permanent place here, you know. 686 00:38:08,204 --> 00:38:09,789 In eternity or whatever, you know. 687 00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,709 And the more I think that, I can't go through life saying this is no big deal. 688 00:38:14,043 --> 00:38:17,380 This is it. This is actually happening. What do you think is interesting? 689 00:38:17,713 --> 00:38:19,799 What do you think is funny? What is important? 690 00:38:20,091 --> 00:38:22,260 You know, every day's our last. 691 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,138 When I feel that way, I usually call my mom to tell her I love her. 692 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:28,015 - Yeah? - And she's always: 693 00:38:28,224 --> 00:38:32,186 "Are you okay? Do you have cancer? Are you gonna commit suicide?" 694 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,022 It's almost not worth it. 695 00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:39,026 So, what about us? 696 00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:41,779 - What about us? - No, what I mean is... 697 00:38:42,029 --> 00:38:45,491 if we were both going to die tonight... - Like the apocalypse was coming? 698 00:38:45,783 --> 00:38:49,745 No, that's too dramatic... But what if just the two of us were going to die? 699 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,956 I mean, would we talk about your book? 700 00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:54,834 - The environment? Or... - If today was our last day? 701 00:38:55,126 --> 00:38:57,628 Yeah, what would we talk about? What would you tell me? 702 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,380 - Well... - That's hard, huh? 703 00:38:59,630 --> 00:39:00,923 - No, no, I'll do it. - Okay. 704 00:39:01,132 --> 00:39:03,467 I definitely would stop talking about my book. 705 00:39:03,759 --> 00:39:06,304 - I would probably drop the environment. - Okay. 706 00:39:06,596 --> 00:39:10,391 But I would still want to talk about, you know, the magic in the universe. 707 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:13,811 - I'd just want to do it from a... - What? 708 00:39:14,103 --> 00:39:15,688 a hotel room, you know... 709 00:39:15,897 --> 00:39:19,525 in between sessions of us wildly fucking until we die. 710 00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,570 Wow. Well, why waste time with an hotel room? 711 00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:26,115 Why not do it right there on a bench? 712 00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:29,327 Come here, come here, come here. 713 00:39:29,577 --> 00:39:31,871 Okay. We're not gonna die tonight. 714 00:39:32,163 --> 00:39:34,123 All right. Too bad. I'm sorry. 715 00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:35,833 That was an extreme example. 716 00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:38,461 - I'm sorry. - Okay. 717 00:39:38,711 --> 00:39:40,338 What I... My point was, you know... 718 00:39:40,546 --> 00:39:43,299 to truly communicate with people is very hard to do. 719 00:39:43,549 --> 00:39:46,260 No, I know, most of our day-to-day exchanges... 720 00:39:46,511 --> 00:39:48,012 Yeah, no, I mean... 721 00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,723 not to bring everything back to sex... - But why not? 722 00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:54,018 No, this example, this friend of mine, she was talking about... 723 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:57,230 - She and her boyfriend... Problems in bed. - Right. 724 00:39:57,563 --> 00:40:00,900 And how when they had been dating for a year she started telling him... 725 00:40:01,234 --> 00:40:04,111 what he could do to please her more, and it freaked him out. 726 00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:05,696 - Why? - Totally. 727 00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:07,824 He thought it meant he was a bad lover... 728 00:40:08,115 --> 00:40:09,909 Maybe she shouldn't have waited so long. 729 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:12,453 - After a year... - But men are so easily offended. 730 00:40:12,703 --> 00:40:15,081 - What, more than women? - Definitely on that subject. 731 00:40:15,373 --> 00:40:16,666 - You think so? - Yeah, yeah. 732 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:19,502 Well, maybe it's because, you know... 733 00:40:19,794 --> 00:40:23,673 men are easier to... To please. - To please? 734 00:40:24,048 --> 00:40:26,926 - Well, I don't know. - Yeah, they are. They're definitely. 735 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:29,262 Anyway, this friend, she was telling me... 736 00:40:29,554 --> 00:40:33,099 next time she dates a man, she's gonna make a little questionnaire... 737 00:40:33,391 --> 00:40:36,686 about what they like and dislike... - What, written down, or out loud? 738 00:40:37,019 --> 00:40:38,688 Yeah, mostly written down. 739 00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:42,441 But it wouldn't be just yes or no. It would be a bit more complex than that. 740 00:40:42,775 --> 00:40:46,112 Like, for example, if the question is: "Are you into S&M?" 741 00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:51,075 The answer could be: "No, but a good spanking once in a while doesn't hurt". 742 00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,996 Right, or like: "Do you like talking dirty in bed?" 743 00:40:55,329 --> 00:40:58,624 - That kind of thing? - Yeah, but not just like any dirty talk. 744 00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:01,252 Just "What specific word would you like to hear?" 745 00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:02,753 - What, me? - Well, yeah. 746 00:41:03,004 --> 00:41:05,548 For example what specific word would you like to hear? 747 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,383 I don't know. 748 00:41:08,968 --> 00:41:11,387 What do you feel about the word "pussy"? 749 00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:14,348 I love it. 750 00:41:14,849 --> 00:41:16,434 Good. 751 00:41:16,684 --> 00:41:19,562 It's amazing what perverts we've become in the past nine years. 752 00:41:19,854 --> 00:41:22,982 At least now we don't have to pretend each new sexual experience... 753 00:41:23,316 --> 00:41:24,942 is, like, a life-altering event. 754 00:41:25,193 --> 00:41:28,571 I know. By now, you've stuck it in so many places it's about to fall off. 755 00:41:28,863 --> 00:41:32,408 And I can't realistically expect you've become anything but a total ho. 756 00:41:32,742 --> 00:41:35,995 - Yeah, thank you. - No, I'm s... 757 00:41:36,746 --> 00:41:39,624 - That's true. What can you do? - What can you do? 758 00:41:39,916 --> 00:41:43,544 So, what kind of songs do you write? I didn't know you did that. 759 00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:45,046 - What kind? - Yeah, sure. 760 00:41:45,254 --> 00:41:46,839 - I don't know, just songs. - Like? 761 00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:49,634 Like, some are about, you know, people. 762 00:41:49,926 --> 00:41:51,511 Relationships. One's about my cat. 763 00:41:51,761 --> 00:41:54,180 - Sing one. - No, I can't. I don't have a guitar. 764 00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:55,973 - Come on. A cappella. - No, no, no. 765 00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:59,185 I'm not singing a song without a guitar. You're nuts. 766 00:41:59,852 --> 00:42:01,687 Why not? 767 00:42:01,938 --> 00:42:04,273 - No, okay. Not now. No. - One. 768 00:42:04,565 --> 00:42:07,693 If not now, when? You want to meet here in six months with a guitar? 769 00:42:07,985 --> 00:42:09,403 I'll fly all the way over here. 770 00:42:09,654 --> 00:42:12,532 - You may or may not make the Métro. - Okay, that's funny. 771 00:42:13,032 --> 00:42:15,034 - We've got to get back. - We'll be all right. 772 00:42:15,284 --> 00:42:17,203 - You're gonna miss your flight. - All right. 773 00:42:17,453 --> 00:42:19,205 We can walk down La Seine. It's nice. 774 00:42:19,455 --> 00:42:20,957 Okay. 775 00:42:21,624 --> 00:42:25,169 - So you're flying back to New York? - Yeah, yeah. 776 00:42:27,213 --> 00:42:31,008 So I read in that article that you're married with a kid. That's great. 777 00:42:31,342 --> 00:42:33,719 Yeah, he's... He's 4. 778 00:42:34,011 --> 00:42:36,138 - What's his name? - Henry. Little Hank. 779 00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:39,100 - He's so much fun. - Oh, wow, I'm sure. 780 00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:42,186 - Your wife, what does she do? - She teaches elementary school. 781 00:42:42,854 --> 00:42:45,314 - Do you have kids? - Yes, two... Shit! 782 00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:46,983 - What? - I left them in the car! 783 00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,819 With the windows up, six months ago! Think they're okay? 784 00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:52,613 No, I'm kidding. No, but I want to have kids someday. 785 00:42:52,864 --> 00:42:54,657 - I'm just not ready yet. - No? 786 00:42:54,907 --> 00:42:57,952 - I'm in a good relationship, though. - Oh yeah? That's good. 787 00:42:58,244 --> 00:43:00,246 - What's he do? - He's a photojournalist. 788 00:43:00,496 --> 00:43:02,248 He does war coverage. 789 00:43:02,498 --> 00:43:04,959 He's away a lot, which is good because I'm so busy. 790 00:43:05,251 --> 00:43:09,172 But isn't that dangerous? Aren't a lot of those guys getting killed these days? 791 00:43:09,505 --> 00:43:12,633 He promises me he doesn't take risks, but I often worry. 792 00:43:12,925 --> 00:43:15,344 He goes in this trance when he photographs something. 793 00:43:15,636 --> 00:43:18,848 - What do you mean? - Well, once we were in New Delhi... 794 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,558 and we passed a bum on the... 795 00:43:20,808 --> 00:43:22,977 - A bomb? - A bum. A homeless. 796 00:43:23,227 --> 00:43:24,520 All right, right. 797 00:43:24,729 --> 00:43:28,399 He looked like he needed help, but his first reaction was to photograph him. 798 00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:31,444 He went really close to his face, fixing his collar... 799 00:43:31,736 --> 00:43:33,404 totally detached from the person. 800 00:43:33,654 --> 00:43:36,282 But don't you have to be like that to be good at that job? 801 00:43:36,574 --> 00:43:37,825 Yeah, I mean, I'm not... 802 00:43:38,075 --> 00:43:41,078 I'm not judging him. What he does is essential and incredible. 803 00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:43,414 All I'm saying is that I could never do it. 804 00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:45,333 Let's get on that boat. Come on. 805 00:43:45,583 --> 00:43:46,834 - No! - Come on, it'll be fun. 806 00:43:47,084 --> 00:43:49,337 - You don't have time! - They're about to take off. 807 00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:51,881 I've got 15 more minutes. Do you have a cell phone? 808 00:43:52,173 --> 00:43:54,383 - Yeah. - All right, I've got that driver's number. 809 00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:56,761 I can call him to pick us up at the next stop. 810 00:43:57,011 --> 00:44:00,723 I've never been on those boats. It's for tourists, it's embarrassing. 811 00:44:01,057 --> 00:44:02,308 Okay. All right. 812 00:44:05,811 --> 00:44:07,355 No, I'll get it, I'll get it. 813 00:44:08,231 --> 00:44:10,691 All right. All right, all right. 814 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,613 Thank you. 815 00:44:15,822 --> 00:44:17,865 - So are you in love with that guy? - What guy? 816 00:44:18,157 --> 00:44:21,369 - The war photographer. - Yes, of course. 817 00:44:25,289 --> 00:44:27,416 So do you have that cell phone? 818 00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:29,335 Oh, yeah. 819 00:44:29,585 --> 00:44:31,337 - Okay, let's see... - Okay. 820 00:44:31,587 --> 00:44:32,880 What do I tell him? 821 00:44:33,089 --> 00:44:35,216 Tell him to pick you up at Quai Henri Quatre. 822 00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:38,135 Oh, shit. Quai...? 823 00:44:38,427 --> 00:44:41,097 Henri Quatre. Quai Henri Quatre. 824 00:44:41,389 --> 00:44:43,349 Henri Quatre. 825 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,477 What's wrong with you? No, do you want me to...? Henri Quatre. 826 00:44:46,769 --> 00:44:48,062 - Henry Four? - Yes! 827 00:44:48,312 --> 00:44:51,190 - Come on, why didn't you say so? - I'm sorry. Okay. 828 00:45:03,452 --> 00:45:05,288 Yeah, is this Philippe? 829 00:45:05,538 --> 00:45:08,082 Yeah. Philippe, this is Jesse Wallace. 830 00:45:08,374 --> 00:45:09,667 Yeah. 831 00:45:09,917 --> 00:45:14,005 Well, listen, I'm on one of those boats, right? 832 00:45:14,338 --> 00:45:17,133 And we're gonna arrive at Henry Four. 833 00:45:17,425 --> 00:45:20,636 At Port Henry Four. You know what that is? 834 00:45:20,970 --> 00:45:23,347 All right, great. And you have my bags, right? 835 00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,475 Yeah, so we'll be there in... I don't know, it's the next stop. 836 00:45:26,767 --> 00:45:29,020 Okay. Au revoir. 837 00:45:30,229 --> 00:45:32,607 - It's okay? - Yeah, yeah. 838 00:45:32,857 --> 00:45:34,734 Oh, wow. 839 00:45:34,984 --> 00:45:37,570 - Notre Dame, man. Check that out. - Oh, wow. 840 00:45:37,862 --> 00:45:41,699 I heard this story once about when the Germans were occupying Paris... 841 00:45:42,033 --> 00:45:43,618 and they had to retreat back. 842 00:45:43,826 --> 00:45:45,703 They wired Notre Dame to blow... 843 00:45:45,953 --> 00:45:50,041 but they had to leave one guy in charge of hitting the switch. 844 00:45:50,374 --> 00:45:53,336 And the guy, the soldier, he couldn't do it. 845 00:45:53,628 --> 00:45:57,173 He just sat there, knocked out by how beautiful the place was. 846 00:45:57,507 --> 00:45:59,300 Then, when the Allied troops came in... 847 00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:02,929 they found all the explosives lying there and the switch unturned... 848 00:46:03,221 --> 00:46:06,724 and they found the same thing at the Sacré-Coeur, Eiffel Tower... 849 00:46:07,058 --> 00:46:09,227 couple other places, I think. 850 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:11,395 Is that true? 851 00:46:11,646 --> 00:46:14,607 I don't know. I always liked the story, though. 852 00:46:14,899 --> 00:46:16,192 Yeah, that's a great story. 853 00:46:16,484 --> 00:46:19,237 But you have to think that Notre Dame will be gone one day. 854 00:46:19,529 --> 00:46:22,573 There used to be another church at the Seine, right there. 855 00:46:22,865 --> 00:46:25,618 - What, right in the same spot? - Yeah. 856 00:46:27,161 --> 00:46:29,539 You know, this is great. I've never done this. 857 00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:32,333 - Yeah. - I forget about how beautiful Paris is. 858 00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,168 It's not so bad, being a tourist. 859 00:46:34,377 --> 00:46:36,754 - Thanks for getting me on the boat. - You're welcome. 860 00:46:37,046 --> 00:46:39,841 I think that book that I wrote was like building something... 861 00:46:40,466 --> 00:46:44,428 so that I wouldn't forget the details of the time that we spent together. 862 00:46:44,846 --> 00:46:48,432 You know, like, just as a reminder, that once, we really did meet. 863 00:46:48,766 --> 00:46:51,602 You know, that this was real, this happened. 864 00:46:51,894 --> 00:46:53,813 I'm happy you're saying that, because... 865 00:46:54,063 --> 00:46:58,192 I mean, I always feel like a freak because I'm never able to move on like this: 866 00:46:59,485 --> 00:47:02,655 People just have an affair, or even entire relationships... 867 00:47:02,989 --> 00:47:05,283 they break up and they forget. 868 00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:09,245 They move on like they would have changed brand of cereals. 869 00:47:10,037 --> 00:47:13,166 I feel I was never able to forget anyone I've been with... 870 00:47:13,457 --> 00:47:18,796 because each person had their own specific qualities. 871 00:47:19,213 --> 00:47:23,843 You can never replace anyone. What is lost is lost. 872 00:47:25,219 --> 00:47:29,182 Each relationship, when it ends, really damages me. I never fully recover. 873 00:47:29,557 --> 00:47:32,602 That's why I'm very careful with getting involved... 874 00:47:32,894 --> 00:47:34,854 because it hurts too much. 875 00:47:35,104 --> 00:47:38,149 Even getting laid, I actually don't do that... 876 00:47:38,441 --> 00:47:41,235 because I will miss of the person the most mundane things. 877 00:47:41,527 --> 00:47:44,113 Like I'm obsessed with little things. 878 00:47:44,572 --> 00:47:46,782 Maybe I'm crazy, but when I was a little girl... 879 00:47:47,074 --> 00:47:49,869 my mom told me that I was always late to school. 880 00:47:50,161 --> 00:47:52,455 One day she followed me to see why. 881 00:47:52,747 --> 00:47:56,876 I was looking at chestnuts falling from the trees, rolling on the sidewalk... 882 00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:02,715 or ants crossing the road, the way a leaf casts a shadow on a tree trunk. 883 00:48:03,132 --> 00:48:05,092 Little things. 884 00:48:05,676 --> 00:48:07,428 I think it's the same with people. 885 00:48:08,012 --> 00:48:10,806 I see in them little details, so specific to each of them... 886 00:48:11,098 --> 00:48:15,061 that move me and that I miss and will always miss. 887 00:48:15,394 --> 00:48:16,854 You can never replace anyone... 888 00:48:17,063 --> 00:48:20,858 because everyone is made of such beautiful, specific details. 889 00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:27,657 Like, I remember the way your beard has a bit of red in it... 890 00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:31,077 and how the sun was making it glow... 891 00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:34,080 that morning right before you left. 892 00:48:35,122 --> 00:48:38,876 I remembered that, and I missed it. 893 00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:40,461 Really crazy, right? 894 00:48:41,170 --> 00:48:44,924 Now I know for sure. You wanna know why I wrote that stupid book? 895 00:48:45,299 --> 00:48:48,094 - Why? - So you'd come to a reading in Paris... 896 00:48:48,427 --> 00:48:52,431 and I could walk up to you and ask, "Where the fuck were you?" 897 00:48:53,015 --> 00:48:55,101 No... You think I'd be here today? 898 00:48:55,393 --> 00:48:59,772 I'm serious. I think I wrote it, in a way, to try to find you. 899 00:49:00,148 --> 00:49:02,108 Okay, that's... I know that's not true... 900 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,652 but that's sweet of you. - I think it is true. 901 00:49:04,944 --> 00:49:07,280 What were the chances of us ever meeting again? 902 00:49:08,197 --> 00:49:11,284 After that December, I'd say almost zero. 903 00:49:11,826 --> 00:49:13,786 But we're not real anyway, right? 904 00:49:14,036 --> 00:49:17,123 We're just characters in that old lady's dream. 905 00:49:17,415 --> 00:49:19,709 She's on her deathbed, fantasizing about her youth. 906 00:49:20,001 --> 00:49:22,003 So of course we had to meet again. 907 00:49:22,253 --> 00:49:26,007 Oh, God. Why weren't you there in Vienna? 908 00:49:27,341 --> 00:49:30,928 - I told you why. - I know why, I just... 909 00:49:31,262 --> 00:49:33,389 I wish you would have been. 910 00:49:33,681 --> 00:49:35,850 Our lives might have been so much different. 911 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,186 You think so? 912 00:49:38,477 --> 00:49:40,021 I actually do. 913 00:49:40,313 --> 00:49:43,316 Maybe not. Maybe we would have hated each other eventually. 914 00:49:43,649 --> 00:49:46,402 What, like we hate each other now? 915 00:49:47,445 --> 00:49:51,741 You know, maybe we're... We're only good at brief encounters... 916 00:49:52,116 --> 00:49:56,162 walking around in European cities, in warm climate. 917 00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:59,832 Oh, God. Why didn't we exchange phone numbers and stuff? 918 00:50:00,124 --> 00:50:02,210 Why didn't we do that? 919 00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:04,712 Because we were young and stupid. 920 00:50:05,004 --> 00:50:07,215 Do you think we still are? 921 00:50:07,465 --> 00:50:09,467 I guess when you're young you just believe... 922 00:50:09,759 --> 00:50:12,220 there'll be many people you'll connect with. 923 00:50:12,970 --> 00:50:15,473 Later in life you realize it only happens a few times. 924 00:50:15,765 --> 00:50:19,227 And you can screw it up, you know. Misconnect. 925 00:50:19,602 --> 00:50:21,938 The past is the past. It was meant to be that way. 926 00:50:22,188 --> 00:50:24,774 You really believe that? That everything's fated? 927 00:50:25,024 --> 00:50:28,820 Well, you know, the world might be less free than we think. 928 00:50:29,195 --> 00:50:30,822 Yeah? 929 00:50:31,155 --> 00:50:34,909 When given these exact circumstances, that's what will happen every time. 930 00:50:35,243 --> 00:50:38,162 Two part hydrogen, one part oxygen, you'll get water every time. 931 00:50:38,454 --> 00:50:41,707 No, I mean, what if your grandmother had lived a week longer, you know? 932 00:50:42,041 --> 00:50:44,544 Or passed away a week earlier? Days, even? 933 00:50:44,836 --> 00:50:46,379 Things might have been different. 934 00:50:46,587 --> 00:50:50,633 - You can't think like that, it's... - You shouldn't on most things, but... 935 00:50:50,967 --> 00:50:55,972 It's just, on this one, it seemed like something was off, you know. 936 00:50:56,681 --> 00:51:00,268 In the months leading up to my wedding, I was thinking about you all the time. 937 00:51:00,601 --> 00:51:04,272 Even on my way there, I'm in the car, a buddy of mine is driving me downtown... 938 00:51:04,605 --> 00:51:07,233 and I'm staring out the window and I think I see you... 939 00:51:07,525 --> 00:51:09,610 not far from the church, right... 940 00:51:09,861 --> 00:51:12,238 folding up an umbrella and walking into a deli... 941 00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:15,992 on the corner of 3th and Broadway. 942 00:51:16,325 --> 00:51:19,704 And I thought I was going crazy. But now I think it probably was you. 943 00:51:20,663 --> 00:51:23,166 I lived on th and Broadway. 944 00:51:24,083 --> 00:51:25,877 You see? 945 00:51:27,253 --> 00:51:30,840 So, what is it like to be married? You haven't talked much about that. 946 00:51:31,924 --> 00:51:35,303 I haven't? How weird. 947 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:39,765 I don't know. We met, you know, when I was in college. 948 00:51:40,099 --> 00:51:46,189 And we broke up and got back together for a period of years, and then... 949 00:51:47,106 --> 00:51:51,152 What? We were sort of back together and she was pregnant... 950 00:51:51,986 --> 00:51:53,488 so marriage. 951 00:51:53,738 --> 00:51:55,698 What is she like? 952 00:51:55,948 --> 00:51:58,826 She's a great teacher, a good mom. 953 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,079 She's smart, pretty, you know. 954 00:52:02,371 --> 00:52:04,373 I remember thinking at the time... 955 00:52:04,624 --> 00:52:06,876 that so many of the men that I admired most... 956 00:52:07,168 --> 00:52:11,797 that their lives were dedicated to something greater than themselves. 957 00:52:12,757 --> 00:52:15,343 So you got married because men you admired were married? 958 00:52:15,635 --> 00:52:21,641 No, no. It's more like I had this... This idea of my best self, you know? 959 00:52:22,058 --> 00:52:23,726 And I wanted to pursue that... 960 00:52:23,976 --> 00:52:26,604 even if it might have been overriding my honest self. 961 00:52:26,896 --> 00:52:28,231 You know what I'm saying? 962 00:52:28,481 --> 00:52:32,860 In the moment, I remember thinking it didn't much matter, the who of it all. 963 00:52:33,236 --> 00:52:35,655 I mean, that nobody is gonna be everything to you... 964 00:52:35,905 --> 00:52:38,658 and that it's just the action of committing yourself... 965 00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:42,328 you know, meeting your responsibilities, that matters. 966 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:46,082 I mean, what is love, right, if it's not respect, trust, admiration? 967 00:52:46,415 --> 00:52:49,377 And I... I felt all those things. 968 00:52:49,669 --> 00:52:52,421 Cut to the present, and I feel like I'm running a nursery... 969 00:52:52,713 --> 00:52:55,299 with somebody I used to date, you know. 970 00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:57,301 I mean, I'm like a monk, you know. 971 00:52:57,552 --> 00:53:02,223 I mean, I've had sex less than 10 times in the last four years. 972 00:53:02,932 --> 00:53:05,393 - What, what? You laughing at me? - No. 973 00:53:05,685 --> 00:53:08,396 - It sounds pathetic? - What monastery do monks have sex...? 974 00:53:08,688 --> 00:53:11,899 Okay, you're right, I'm doing better than most monks. 975 00:53:12,191 --> 00:53:14,610 But I do, I feel like if somebody were to touch me... 976 00:53:14,861 --> 00:53:16,946 I would dissolve into molecules. 977 00:53:17,238 --> 00:53:19,866 Well, we're here. We've gotta go. Come on. 978 00:53:20,158 --> 00:53:21,951 Shit. 979 00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:37,341 - I'm sorry to hear that, you know. - What? 980 00:53:37,675 --> 00:53:40,636 You're not that happy with your marriage. 981 00:53:40,928 --> 00:53:43,472 - This friend of mine, she's a shrink... - How's she doing? 982 00:53:43,764 --> 00:53:45,266 She's a mess, but... 983 00:53:45,516 --> 00:53:48,644 No, she said she's been dealing with couples that are breaking up... 984 00:53:48,936 --> 00:53:50,980 for the same reason. - What reason is that? 985 00:53:51,272 --> 00:53:53,900 They all expected, after a few years of living together... 986 00:53:54,192 --> 00:53:56,444 for the passion, that desire, to be the same. 987 00:53:56,694 --> 00:53:58,070 - Yeah, right. - It's impossible. 988 00:53:58,321 --> 00:53:59,614 And thank God... 989 00:53:59,822 --> 00:54:03,409 we'd end up with aneurysms in that constant state of excitement, right? 990 00:54:03,743 --> 00:54:05,495 We'd do nothing at all with our lives. 991 00:54:05,703 --> 00:54:09,040 Would you have finished your book if you were fucking every five minutes? 992 00:54:09,373 --> 00:54:11,834 I might have welcomed the challenge, I mean... 993 00:54:12,168 --> 00:54:14,795 It's natural for your wife after the birth of your son... 994 00:54:15,087 --> 00:54:17,590 to give all her love to the little one. - Of course. 995 00:54:17,882 --> 00:54:20,927 If she was obsessed with sex, riding you like a wildcat... 996 00:54:21,219 --> 00:54:22,887 That wouldn't make any sense, right? 997 00:54:23,137 --> 00:54:26,557 Everything you're saying makes sense. It's not about sex. 998 00:54:26,891 --> 00:54:29,018 No, I know. It's obvious. 999 00:54:29,268 --> 00:54:30,812 I... 1000 00:54:31,979 --> 00:54:35,024 You know, couples are so confused lately. 1001 00:54:35,358 --> 00:54:37,568 I think it must be that... 1002 00:54:37,819 --> 00:54:41,614 men need to feel essential and they don't anymore. 1003 00:54:41,948 --> 00:54:44,408 It's been imprinted in their head for so many years... 1004 00:54:44,659 --> 00:54:46,285 that they had to be the provider. 1005 00:54:46,536 --> 00:54:50,039 Like, I'm a strong, independent woman in my professional life. 1006 00:54:50,373 --> 00:54:51,833 I don't need a man to feed me... 1007 00:54:52,083 --> 00:54:55,294 but I still need a man to love me and that I could love. 1008 00:54:56,796 --> 00:54:59,340 - So your driver's here. - Yeah. 1009 00:54:59,674 --> 00:55:01,300 Well, I guess this is goodbye. 1010 00:55:01,509 --> 00:55:03,094 - You better give me your... - No, no. 1011 00:55:03,344 --> 00:55:05,471 Why don't we just give you a ride home? 1012 00:55:05,721 --> 00:55:07,974 - Well, I can take the Métro. I'm fine. - No, I... 1013 00:55:08,224 --> 00:55:11,060 My flight's not until 10. I'll be arriving two hours early. 1014 00:55:11,352 --> 00:55:12,728 This way we can keep talking. 1015 00:55:12,937 --> 00:55:14,981 - Monsieur, can...? - It's not on the way. 1016 00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:31,622 You told him where you are and all that? 1017 00:55:31,914 --> 00:55:33,499 Yeah. 1018 00:55:36,878 --> 00:55:39,255 - He knows where he's going? - Yes. 1019 00:55:39,505 --> 00:55:41,340 Glad somebody does. 1020 00:55:41,549 --> 00:55:45,511 - But this is better than the Métro, right? - Definitely. 1021 00:55:48,097 --> 00:55:52,310 I was thinking, for me it's better I don't romanticize things as much anymore. 1022 00:55:52,685 --> 00:55:54,479 I was suffering so much all the time. 1023 00:55:54,729 --> 00:55:58,065 I still have lots of dreams, but they're not in regard to my love life. 1024 00:55:58,441 --> 00:56:00,735 It doesn't make me sad, it's just the way it is. 1025 00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:04,989 Is that why you're in a relationship with somebody who's never around? 1026 00:56:05,323 --> 00:56:09,076 Yes, obviously I can't deal with the day-to-day life of a relationship. 1027 00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:11,412 Yeah, we have this exciting time together... 1028 00:56:11,662 --> 00:56:14,874 and he leaves and I miss him, but at least I'm not dying inside. 1029 00:56:15,208 --> 00:56:17,502 When someone's always around me, I'm suffocating. 1030 00:56:17,835 --> 00:56:20,588 No, wait, you just said that you need to love and be loved. 1031 00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:23,633 Yeah, but when I do, it quickly makes me nauseous. 1032 00:56:23,925 --> 00:56:25,301 It's a disaster. 1033 00:56:25,551 --> 00:56:28,137 I mean, I'm really happy only when I'm on my own. 1034 00:56:28,387 --> 00:56:33,100 Even being alone, it's better than sitting next to a lover and feeling lonely. 1035 00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:35,770 It's not so easy for me to be a romantic. 1036 00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:39,357 You start off that way, and after you've been screwed over a few times... 1037 00:56:39,690 --> 00:56:43,820 you forget about your delusional ideas and you take what comes into your life. 1038 00:56:44,695 --> 00:56:47,073 That's not even true. I haven't been screwed over... 1039 00:56:47,365 --> 00:56:49,700 I've just had too many blah relationships. 1040 00:56:49,951 --> 00:56:51,702 They weren't mean, they cared for me... 1041 00:56:51,953 --> 00:56:55,331 but there were no real connection or excitement. 1042 00:56:55,623 --> 00:56:57,667 At least, not from my side. 1043 00:56:57,959 --> 00:57:00,503 God, I'm sorry, is it really that bad? 1044 00:57:00,795 --> 00:57:02,755 It's not, right? 1045 00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:06,717 You know, it's not even that. I was... 1046 00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:10,054 I was fine until I read your fucking book. 1047 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,265 It stirred shit up, you know? 1048 00:57:12,723 --> 00:57:15,226 It reminded me how genuinely romantic I was... 1049 00:57:15,518 --> 00:57:17,603 how I had so much hope in things... 1050 00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:21,232 and now it's like I don't believe in anything that relates to love. 1051 00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:23,484 I don't feel things for people anymore. 1052 00:57:24,694 --> 00:57:28,197 In a way, I put all my romanticism into that one night... 1053 00:57:28,531 --> 00:57:30,908 and I was never able to feel all this again. 1054 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,619 Like, somehow this night took things away from me... 1055 00:57:33,911 --> 00:57:36,205 and I expressed them to you, and you took them with you. 1056 00:57:36,497 --> 00:57:38,291 It made me feel cold, like love wasn't for me. 1057 00:57:38,499 --> 00:57:41,169 I don't believe that. I don't believe that. 1058 00:57:42,545 --> 00:57:46,591 You know what? Reality and love are almost contradictory for me. 1059 00:57:46,966 --> 00:57:51,095 It's funny, every single of my exes, they're now married. 1060 00:57:51,429 --> 00:57:54,223 Men go out with me, we break up, and then they get married. 1061 00:57:54,515 --> 00:57:57,894 And later they call me to thank me for teaching them what love is... 1062 00:57:58,186 --> 00:58:00,563 and that I taught them to care and respect women. 1063 00:58:00,855 --> 00:58:03,107 - I think I'm one of those. - I want to kill them! 1064 00:58:03,441 --> 00:58:06,903 Why didn't they ask me? I would have said no, but they could have asked! 1065 00:58:07,236 --> 00:58:10,865 I know it's my fault because I never felt it was the right man. 1066 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,327 Never. But what does it mean, the right man, the love of your life? 1067 00:58:14,619 --> 00:58:17,788 The concept is absurd. We can only be complete with another person. 1068 00:58:18,164 --> 00:58:20,458 - It's evil, right? - Can I talk? 1069 00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:24,003 I guess I've been heartbroken too many times and then I recovered. 1070 00:58:24,295 --> 00:58:26,797 So now, you know, from the starts, I make no effort. 1071 00:58:27,089 --> 00:58:29,759 - I know it's not gonna work out. - You can't do that. 1072 00:58:30,092 --> 00:58:31,886 You can't live trying to avoid pain... 1073 00:58:32,178 --> 00:58:33,888 at the expense... - Those are words. 1074 00:58:34,138 --> 00:58:35,515 I've gotta get away from you. 1075 00:58:35,806 --> 00:58:37,850 - Stop the car, I wanna get out. - No, don't... 1076 00:58:38,142 --> 00:58:39,936 - Keep talking. - It's being around you. 1077 00:58:40,186 --> 00:58:42,438 Don't touch me, you know. I want to get on a cab. 1078 00:58:45,274 --> 00:58:47,610 No, don't. No, no, keep going. 1079 00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:51,280 Listen, I'm just so happy... Thank you, just keep going. 1080 00:58:51,614 --> 00:58:53,241 All right. 1081 00:58:54,659 --> 00:58:58,246 Look, I'm just so happy, all right, to be with you. 1082 00:58:58,579 --> 00:59:01,791 I am. I'm so glad you didn't forget about me, okay? 1083 00:59:02,124 --> 00:59:04,710 No, I didn't. And it pisses me off, okay? 1084 00:59:05,044 --> 00:59:08,548 You come here to Paris, all romantic, and married. 1085 00:59:08,881 --> 00:59:10,299 Okay? Screw you. 1086 00:59:11,175 --> 00:59:13,427 Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get you. 1087 00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:16,097 I mean, all I need is a married man. 1088 00:59:16,806 --> 00:59:20,017 There's been so much water under the bridge, it's not even about you. 1089 00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:22,687 It's about that moment in time that's forever gone. 1090 00:59:22,979 --> 00:59:25,773 You say that, but you didn't even remember having sex, so... 1091 00:59:26,065 --> 00:59:28,818 Of course I remembered. 1092 00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:32,363 - You did? - Yes. 1093 00:59:32,655 --> 00:59:35,867 - Women pretend things like that. - They do? 1094 00:59:36,242 --> 00:59:40,037 What was I supposed to say? That I remember the wine in the park... 1095 00:59:40,371 --> 00:59:43,708 and us looking up at the stars fading away as the sun came up? 1096 00:59:44,041 --> 00:59:47,295 We had sex twice, you idiot! 1097 00:59:48,796 --> 00:59:52,425 All right, you know what, I'm just happy to see you. 1098 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,095 Even if you've become an angry, manic-depressive activist... 1099 00:59:56,387 --> 00:59:59,765 I still like you, I still enjoy being around you. 1100 01:00:00,558 --> 01:00:04,770 And I feel the same. I'm sorry. I don't know what happened, I just... 1101 01:00:05,104 --> 01:00:07,440 - I had to let it all out. - Don't worry about it. 1102 01:00:07,732 --> 01:00:10,234 I'm so miserable in my love life, in my relationship. 1103 01:00:10,526 --> 01:00:13,571 I always act as... Like, you know, I'm detached. 1104 01:00:13,863 --> 01:00:16,866 But I'm dying inside. I'm dying because I'm so numb. 1105 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,786 I don't feel pain or excitement, I'm not even bitter, I'm just... 1106 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,664 You think you're the one dying inside? 1107 01:00:23,956 --> 01:00:28,002 My life is 24/7 bad. 1108 01:00:28,336 --> 01:00:29,587 - I'm sorry. - No, no. 1109 01:00:29,837 --> 01:00:32,632 I mean, the only happiness I get is when I'm out with my son. 1110 01:00:32,924 --> 01:00:34,509 I've been to marriage counseling... 1111 01:00:34,759 --> 01:00:37,261 I've done things I never thought I would have to do. 1112 01:00:37,553 --> 01:00:40,389 I've lit candles, bought self-help books, lingerie. 1113 01:00:40,681 --> 01:00:42,975 - Did the candles help? - Hell, no. 1114 01:00:43,226 --> 01:00:45,603 I don't love her the way she needs to be loved... 1115 01:00:45,895 --> 01:00:50,149 and I don't even see a future for us, but then I look at my little boy... 1116 01:00:50,525 --> 01:00:53,778 sitting across from me, and I think I'd suffer any torture... 1117 01:00:54,070 --> 01:00:56,364 to be with him for all the minutes of his life. 1118 01:00:56,614 --> 01:00:58,407 I don't want to miss out on one. 1119 01:00:58,658 --> 01:01:02,787 But then, there's no joy or laughter in my home, you know? 1120 01:01:03,162 --> 01:01:06,707 - I don't want him growing up in that. - No laughter? That's terrible. 1121 01:01:07,041 --> 01:01:08,876 My parents have been together 35 years... 1122 01:01:09,126 --> 01:01:11,379 and even when they fight they end up laughing. 1123 01:01:11,629 --> 01:01:15,258 I don't want to be one of those people who are getting divorced at 52... 1124 01:01:15,591 --> 01:01:19,846 and falling down into tears, admitting they never really loved their spouse... 1125 01:01:20,179 --> 01:01:25,017 and they feel their life has been sucked up into a vacuum cleaner. 1126 01:01:25,434 --> 01:01:28,896 You know, I want a great life. I want her to have a great life... 1127 01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:31,274 she deserves that. 1128 01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:34,819 But we're just living in the pretense of a marriage, responsibility... 1129 01:01:35,111 --> 01:01:38,948 you know, all these ideas of how people are supposed to live. 1130 01:01:40,825 --> 01:01:44,537 But then I... I have these dreams... 1131 01:01:46,205 --> 01:01:47,540 What dreams? 1132 01:01:47,748 --> 01:01:51,127 I have these dreams, you know, that... 1133 01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:53,629 I'm standing on a platform... 1134 01:01:55,006 --> 01:01:58,009 and you keep going by on a train... 1135 01:01:58,301 --> 01:02:02,513 and you go by, and you go by, and you go by, you go by. 1136 01:02:02,889 --> 01:02:04,682 And I wake up with the fucking sweats. 1137 01:02:04,932 --> 01:02:07,101 And then I have this other dream... 1138 01:02:07,435 --> 01:02:11,105 where you're pregnant in bed beside me naked... 1139 01:02:11,481 --> 01:02:15,109 and I want so badly to touch you, but you tell me not to and you look away. 1140 01:02:15,443 --> 01:02:19,780 And I... And I touch you anyway... 1141 01:02:20,114 --> 01:02:24,410 right on your ankle, and your skin is so soft that I wake up in sobs, all right? 1142 01:02:25,328 --> 01:02:28,623 My wife is there looking at me, and I feel I'm a million miles from her. 1143 01:02:28,956 --> 01:02:32,835 And I know that there's something wrong, that I... 1144 01:02:33,169 --> 01:02:35,087 God, that I can't keep living like this... 1145 01:02:35,338 --> 01:02:37,757 that there's gotta be more to love than commitment. 1146 01:02:38,090 --> 01:02:40,760 But then I think that I might have given up... 1147 01:02:41,052 --> 01:02:42,887 on the whole idea of romantic love. 1148 01:02:43,137 --> 01:02:46,265 That I might have put it to bed that... 1149 01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:49,227 That day when you weren't there. 1150 01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:52,146 You know, I think I might have done that. 1151 01:02:53,523 --> 01:02:55,650 Why are you telling me all this? 1152 01:02:56,609 --> 01:03:00,655 I'm sorry. I don't know. I'm... I should... 1153 01:03:01,989 --> 01:03:03,866 I shouldn't have. 1154 01:03:04,116 --> 01:03:05,660 You know, it's so weird. 1155 01:03:05,868 --> 01:03:09,747 People think they are the only one going through tough times. 1156 01:03:10,122 --> 01:03:14,252 I mean, when I read the article, I thought your life was perfect. 1157 01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:18,464 A wife, a kid, published author. 1158 01:03:19,257 --> 01:03:22,468 But your personal life is more of a mess than mine. 1159 01:03:22,802 --> 01:03:25,054 I'm sorry. 1160 01:03:25,304 --> 01:03:28,266 Well, I'm glad it's good for something. 1161 01:03:31,144 --> 01:03:34,272 - This is where you live? - Yeah. 1162 01:03:35,314 --> 01:03:39,318 So you're just relieved that I'm in even more deep shit than you are? 1163 01:03:39,652 --> 01:03:41,445 Yes, you've made me feel better. 1164 01:03:41,696 --> 01:03:43,739 Oh, good, I'm glad. 1165 01:03:44,031 --> 01:03:46,409 No, I really wish you the best. 1166 01:03:46,659 --> 01:03:50,163 It's not because I'm incapable of having a good relationship or a family... 1167 01:03:50,496 --> 01:03:52,540 that I wish everyone to be doomed like me. 1168 01:03:52,790 --> 01:03:55,084 I'm sure you'd make... Be a great mom someday. 1169 01:03:55,334 --> 01:03:56,752 - Really? You think so? - Yeah... 1170 01:03:57,003 --> 01:04:00,006 a few antidepressants, you know, you'll do great. 1171 01:04:00,923 --> 01:04:03,634 - Okay, say stop. - Stop. 1172 01:04:04,218 --> 01:04:06,804 - Okay. - You ready? Okay. 1173 01:04:17,064 --> 01:04:21,110 - So I want to try something. - What? 1174 01:04:23,738 --> 01:04:27,867 I want to see if you stay together or if you dissolve into molecules. 1175 01:04:29,118 --> 01:04:30,995 How am I doing? 1176 01:04:31,245 --> 01:04:33,080 Still here. 1177 01:04:33,331 --> 01:04:35,416 Good. I like being here. 1178 01:04:39,378 --> 01:04:40,880 Is this your apartment? 1179 01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:42,757 No, I live down there. 1180 01:04:43,007 --> 01:04:45,176 - Down there? - Yeah. 1181 01:04:45,426 --> 01:04:47,803 Monsieur, I'm gonna walk her to her door. 1182 01:04:56,979 --> 01:04:58,231 This is incredible. 1183 01:04:58,481 --> 01:05:01,067 - This is where you live? - Yeah. 1184 01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:04,445 - How long have you been here? - Four years. 1185 01:05:06,113 --> 01:05:08,199 - So tell me... - What? 1186 01:05:08,449 --> 01:05:10,034 Is it all true about your dreams... 1187 01:05:10,284 --> 01:05:12,912 or did you say that to hopefully get in my pants? 1188 01:05:13,204 --> 01:05:14,705 I said that to get in your pants. 1189 01:05:14,956 --> 01:05:17,375 - I use that all the time. - Oh, okay. Does it work? 1190 01:05:17,667 --> 01:05:20,419 You know. Sometimes. 1191 01:05:21,712 --> 01:05:25,091 Here's my kitty. Oh, so cute. Look at him. 1192 01:05:25,383 --> 01:05:27,134 You know what I love about this cat? 1193 01:05:27,385 --> 01:05:29,554 Every morning I bring him to the courtyard... 1194 01:05:29,887 --> 01:05:34,392 and every single morning he looks at everything like it was the first time. 1195 01:05:34,767 --> 01:05:38,688 Every corner, every tree, every plant. 1196 01:05:39,021 --> 01:05:41,357 Smells everything with his little cute nose. 1197 01:05:41,649 --> 01:05:45,570 Oh, I love my kitty. I love my kitty. 1198 01:05:46,988 --> 01:05:48,781 - What's his name? - Che. 1199 01:05:49,532 --> 01:05:51,325 Che? 1200 01:05:53,077 --> 01:05:55,413 - What? - Commie. 1201 01:05:56,956 --> 01:05:59,834 No, "che" in Argentina means "hey". 1202 01:06:00,126 --> 01:06:02,420 - Okay. - Yes. 1203 01:06:02,712 --> 01:06:06,340 Oh, baby. Oh, yes, yes, yes. 1204 01:06:09,802 --> 01:06:13,473 We're having a little party. It's so much fun. 1205 01:06:23,816 --> 01:06:25,568 - So... - So. 1206 01:06:41,834 --> 01:06:46,130 You know what? I was thinking, would you play me one of your songs? 1207 01:06:46,464 --> 01:06:48,508 - You're gonna miss your flight. - I won't. 1208 01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:51,594 I'm gonna be in the airport for over an hour, reading... 1209 01:06:51,886 --> 01:06:54,680 wishing you'd played me one of your songs. 1210 01:06:55,014 --> 01:06:57,099 One song? Okay, but quickly. 1211 01:06:57,391 --> 01:06:59,101 Okay. 1212 01:07:04,524 --> 01:07:07,610 God, I love these old staircases. 1213 01:07:46,023 --> 01:07:48,192 - Hold this. - What, for me? 1214 01:07:48,484 --> 01:07:50,444 Hey there, buddy. 1215 01:07:51,612 --> 01:07:53,614 Che. 1216 01:08:05,168 --> 01:08:08,796 - Would you like some tea? - Yeah, sure. 1217 01:08:09,463 --> 01:08:11,048 Wow. 1218 01:08:12,091 --> 01:08:15,428 - Is chamomile okay? - Yeah. Great. 1219 01:08:15,761 --> 01:08:17,930 - Merci. - Messy? 1220 01:08:18,181 --> 01:08:21,767 - You think my apartment is messy? - No, no. Merci. 1221 01:08:22,101 --> 01:08:25,480 - Merci beaucoup. - Ah, merci. 1222 01:08:25,813 --> 01:08:29,400 I meant to tell you, your French has improved a lot. 1223 01:08:29,734 --> 01:08:30,985 - Really? - Yeah. 1224 01:08:31,235 --> 01:08:33,738 Yeah, you've really mastered the language. 1225 01:08:34,614 --> 01:08:37,617 All right, all right, what song are you gonna play me? 1226 01:08:39,952 --> 01:08:42,747 No, I can't. It's too embarrassing. It's been... 1227 01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:46,584 Whoa. No way. No way. I came up here, you cannot crap out on me now. 1228 01:08:46,918 --> 01:08:48,878 One song. Anything will be great. 1229 01:08:49,170 --> 01:08:50,880 But listen, you're gonna laugh at me. 1230 01:08:51,130 --> 01:08:52,548 - You think so? - Yes. 1231 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,759 I doubt it. 1232 01:08:57,595 --> 01:08:58,971 Okay. 1233 01:08:59,180 --> 01:09:01,432 What do you want to hear? I have... 1234 01:09:01,724 --> 01:09:03,976 I have three songs in English. 1235 01:09:04,227 --> 01:09:05,561 One's about my cat... 1236 01:09:05,770 --> 01:09:09,690 one's about my ex-boyfriend... Well, ex-ex-boyfriend... 1237 01:09:10,024 --> 01:09:12,401 and there's one about... 1238 01:09:12,902 --> 01:09:16,113 Well, it's just a little waltz. 1239 01:09:16,447 --> 01:09:18,491 A waltz? Yeah. 1240 01:09:18,783 --> 01:09:20,785 - Play the waltz. - Right. 1241 01:09:21,118 --> 01:09:23,454 I haven't played it in a while. You sure? 1242 01:09:26,874 --> 01:09:28,376 Okay. 1243 01:09:29,168 --> 01:09:31,379 All right, the waltz. 1244 01:09:43,683 --> 01:09:48,020 Let me sing you a waltz 1245 01:09:48,354 --> 01:09:52,900 Out of nowhere, out of my thoughts 1246 01:09:53,276 --> 01:09:57,655 Let me sing you a waltz 1247 01:09:57,989 --> 01:10:01,701 About this one-night stand 1248 01:10:02,952 --> 01:10:08,457 You were, for me, that night 1249 01:10:08,833 --> 01:10:14,505 Everything I always dreamt of in life 1250 01:10:14,922 --> 01:10:18,301 But now you're gone 1251 01:10:18,634 --> 01:10:22,722 You are far-gone 1252 01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:28,352 All the way to your island of rain 1253 01:10:28,728 --> 01:10:34,358 It was, for you, just a one-night thing 1254 01:10:34,775 --> 01:10:37,612 But you were much more to me 1255 01:10:37,945 --> 01:10:40,531 Just so you know 1256 01:10:41,699 --> 01:10:44,577 I don't care what they say 1257 01:10:44,869 --> 01:10:49,624 I know what you meant For me that day 1258 01:10:49,999 --> 01:10:54,629 I just want another try 1259 01:10:55,004 --> 01:10:59,800 I just want another night 1260 01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:06,974 Even if it doesn't seem quite right 1261 01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:11,270 You meant, for me, much more 1262 01:11:11,604 --> 01:11:15,775 Than anyone I've met before 1263 01:11:16,108 --> 01:11:22,198 One single night with you, little Jesse 1264 01:11:22,615 --> 01:11:27,537 Is worth a thousand with anybody 1265 01:11:28,788 --> 01:11:31,999 I have no bitterness, my sweet 1266 01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:37,380 I'll never forget this one-night thing 1267 01:11:37,755 --> 01:11:43,636 Even tomorrow, in other arms 1268 01:11:44,053 --> 01:11:49,851 My heart will stay yours until I die 1269 01:11:54,272 --> 01:11:58,860 Let me sing you a waltz 1270 01:11:59,235 --> 01:12:04,073 Out of nowhere, out of my blues 1271 01:12:04,448 --> 01:12:09,203 Let me sing you a waltz 1272 01:12:09,579 --> 01:12:14,542 About this lovely one-night stand 1273 01:12:31,893 --> 01:12:35,354 - No, one more! Please, please. - No! It was our deal. 1274 01:12:35,730 --> 01:12:38,065 One... One song. No, no, no. 1275 01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:40,860 You can have your tea and then... 1276 01:12:46,365 --> 01:12:48,659 - All right, let me ask you one question. - What? 1277 01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:52,038 Do you just plug that name in for every guy that comes up here? 1278 01:12:52,788 --> 01:12:54,081 Yes, of course. 1279 01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:58,211 What do you think, that I wrote the song about you? Are you nuts? 1280 01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:05,051 Is this you? Little cross-eyed Celine? 1281 01:13:05,259 --> 01:13:07,762 - Yes. That's funny. - Cute. 1282 01:13:09,263 --> 01:13:12,517 - Is that your grandmother? - Yeah. 1283 01:13:14,435 --> 01:13:16,437 Oh, wow. 1284 01:13:16,896 --> 01:13:19,857 - You want some honey? - Yeah, sure. 1285 01:14:09,657 --> 01:14:11,868 Did you ever see Nina Simone in concert? 1286 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,620 No, I never did. I can't believe she's gone. 1287 01:14:15,037 --> 01:14:16,497 I know, it's so sad. 1288 01:14:17,665 --> 01:14:19,083 Thanks. 1289 01:14:19,292 --> 01:14:21,210 It's hot. 1290 01:14:23,379 --> 01:14:26,090 I saw her twice in concert. 1291 01:14:26,841 --> 01:14:29,051 She was so great. 1292 01:14:29,343 --> 01:14:32,221 That's one of my favorite songs of hers. 1293 01:14:48,196 --> 01:14:49,489 She was so great. 1294 01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:53,659 She was so funny in concert too. 1295 01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:57,914 She would... She would be right in the middle of a song and then... 1296 01:14:58,247 --> 01:15:00,041 you know, stop... 1297 01:15:00,291 --> 01:15:04,212 and walk from the piano all the way to the edge of the stage. 1298 01:15:04,545 --> 01:15:06,756 Like, really slowly. 1299 01:15:09,842 --> 01:15:13,012 And she'd start talking to someone in the audience. 1300 01:15:13,304 --> 01:15:16,516 "Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. 1301 01:15:17,433 --> 01:15:19,602 I love you too". 1302 01:15:20,102 --> 01:15:24,357 And then she'd walk back. Take her time, no hurry, you know. 1303 01:15:24,732 --> 01:15:28,069 She had that big, cute ass. 1304 01:15:28,402 --> 01:15:29,862 She would move. 1305 01:15:31,656 --> 01:15:36,285 And then she would go back to the piano and play some more, you know. 1306 01:15:37,995 --> 01:15:39,580 And then she would, I don't know... 1307 01:15:39,831 --> 01:15:42,208 just start another song in the middle of another. 1308 01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:46,128 You know, like, stop again, and be like: 1309 01:15:46,462 --> 01:15:50,299 "You over there, can you move that fan. 1310 01:15:51,384 --> 01:15:53,386 You're cute. 1311 01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:16,450 Oh, yeah". 1312 01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:24,208 Baby, you are gonna miss that plane. 1313 01:16:25,668 --> 01:16:27,461 I know. 1314 01:20:12,436 --> 01:20:14,438 Subtitles by SDI Media Group