1 00:01:49,057 --> 00:01:51,525 Do you consider the book to be autobiographical ? 2 00:01:53,103 --> 00:01:55,060 Well, I mean... 3 00:01:55,314 --> 00:01:58,033 ... isn't everything autobiographical ? 4 00:01:58,317 --> 00:02:02,594 I mean, we all see the world through our own tiny keyhole, right ? 5 00:02:02,988 --> 00:02:04,819 I mean, I always think of Thomas Wolfe. 6 00:02:05,115 --> 00:02:08,233 Have you ever seen that little one-page "Note to Reader"... 7 00:02:08,536 --> 00:02:10,572 ... in the front of Look Homeward, Angel ? 8 00:02:11,454 --> 00:02:16,164 Anyway, he says that we are the sum of all the moments of our lives... 9 00:02:16,542 --> 00:02:20,172 ... and anybody who sits down to write will use the clay of their own life... 10 00:02:20,505 --> 00:02:21,984 ... that you can't avoid that. 11 00:02:22,215 --> 00:02:26,924 So when I look at my own life, I have to admit, right, that I... 12 00:02:27,428 --> 00:02:31,741 I've never been around a bunch of guns or violence, you know, not really. 13 00:02:32,142 --> 00:02:35,896 No political intrigue or a helicopter crash, right ? 14 00:02:36,688 --> 00:02:40,602 But my life, from my own point of view, has been full of drama, right ? 15 00:02:41,402 --> 00:02:43,757 And so I thought, if I could write a book... 16 00:02:44,071 --> 00:02:48,302 ... that could capture what it's like to really meet somebody... 17 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:51,261 One of the most exciting things that's happened to me... 18 00:02:51,537 --> 00:02:53,732 ... is to meet somebody, make that connection. 19 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,917 And if I could make that valuable, you know, to capture that... 20 00:02:58,751 --> 00:03:01,903 ... that would be the attempt, or... 21 00:03:02,589 --> 00:03:04,978 Did I answer your question ? 22 00:03:05,675 --> 00:03:07,983 I'll try to be more specific. 23 00:03:08,552 --> 00:03:11,146 Was there ever a French young woman on a train you met... 24 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:13,661 ... and spent an evening with ? 25 00:03:17,646 --> 00:03:20,444 See, to me, that... I mean... 26 00:03:20,732 --> 00:03:24,042 ... that's not important, you know ? - So that's a yes ? 27 00:03:25,112 --> 00:03:28,946 All right, since I'm in France and this is the last stop of my book tour, yes. 28 00:03:29,908 --> 00:03:31,660 Thank you. 29 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:35,186 Mr. Wallace, the book ends on an ambiguous note. 30 00:03:35,498 --> 00:03:36,772 We don't know. 31 00:03:37,041 --> 00:03:39,509 Do you think they get back together in six months... 32 00:03:39,877 --> 00:03:43,106 ... like they promise each other ? 33 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:45,710 Like they promised ? 34 00:03:47,384 --> 00:03:49,978 I think how you answer that, you know, is... 35 00:03:50,929 --> 00:03:54,079 It's a good test, right, if you're a romantic or a cynic. 36 00:03:54,431 --> 00:03:58,266 Right ? I mean, you think they get back together, right ? 37 00:03:58,603 --> 00:04:00,082 - You don't, for sure. - No. 38 00:04:00,313 --> 00:04:02,224 And you hope they do, but you're not sure. 39 00:04:02,524 --> 00:04:06,039 - That's why you're asking the question. - Do you think they get back together ? 40 00:04:06,403 --> 00:04:08,439 I mean, did you in real life ? 41 00:04:09,991 --> 00:04:11,743 Did I in real... ? 42 00:04:12,201 --> 00:04:14,668 Look, in the words of my grandfather, okay: 43 00:04:14,953 --> 00:04:17,945 "To answer that would take the piss out of the whole thing. " 44 00:04:18,957 --> 00:04:22,314 We just have the time for one last question. 45 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:24,308 What is your next book ? 46 00:04:26,964 --> 00:04:29,353 I don't know, man. I don't know. 47 00:04:29,717 --> 00:04:33,028 I've been... I've been thinking about this... 48 00:04:33,346 --> 00:04:35,940 Well, I always kind of wanted to write a book... 49 00:04:36,224 --> 00:04:39,738 ... that all took place within the space of a pop song. 50 00:04:40,102 --> 00:04:43,095 Like three or four minutes long, the whole thing. 51 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,796 The story, the idea, is that there's this guy, right... 52 00:04:47,152 --> 00:04:49,746 ... and he's totally depressed. 53 00:04:50,071 --> 00:04:54,065 His great dream was to be a lover, an adventurer, you know... 54 00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:57,049 ... riding motorcycles through South America. 55 00:04:57,371 --> 00:05:00,009 And instead he's sitting at a marble table eating lobster. 56 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:03,248 He's got a good job and a beautiful wife, right, but that... 57 00:05:03,543 --> 00:05:06,775 Everything that he needs. But that doesn't matter... 58 00:05:07,131 --> 00:05:09,964 ... because what he wants is to fight for meaning. 59 00:05:10,343 --> 00:05:12,491 You know ? Happiness is in the doing, right ? 60 00:05:12,802 --> 00:05:14,997 Not in the getting what you want. 61 00:05:15,304 --> 00:05:18,661 So he's sitting there, and just that second... 62 00:05:18,975 --> 00:05:23,047 ... his little 5-year-old daughter hops up on the table. 63 00:05:23,395 --> 00:05:26,546 And he knows that she should get down, because she could get hurt. 64 00:05:26,899 --> 00:05:31,416 But she's dancing to this pop song in a summer dress. 65 00:05:32,239 --> 00:05:34,150 And he looks down... 66 00:05:34,449 --> 00:05:36,838 ... and all of a sudden, he's 16. 67 00:05:37,786 --> 00:05:43,020 And his high-school sweetheart is dropping him off at home. 68 00:05:43,417 --> 00:05:46,852 And they just lost their virginity, and she loves him... 69 00:05:47,170 --> 00:05:50,959 ... and the same song is playing on the car radio. 70 00:05:51,384 --> 00:05:54,217 And she climbs up and starts dancing on the roof of the car. 71 00:05:54,554 --> 00:05:56,031 And now he's worried about her. 72 00:05:56,262 --> 00:06:00,380 And she's beautiful, with a facial expression just like his daughter's. 73 00:06:00,892 --> 00:06:02,962 In fact, maybe that's why he even likes her. 74 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:06,068 You see, he knows he's not remembering this dance... 75 00:06:06,398 --> 00:06:09,946 ... he's there. He's there, in both moments, simultaneously. 76 00:06:10,317 --> 00:06:13,594 And just for an instant, all his life is just folding in on itself. 77 00:06:13,947 --> 00:06:16,541 And it's obvious to him that time is a lie. 78 00:06:18,952 --> 00:06:21,307 That it's all happening all the time... 79 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:25,017 ... and inside every moment is another moment... 80 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:27,170 ... all happening simultaneously. 81 00:06:27,462 --> 00:06:30,419 Anyway, that's kind of the idea. Anyway. 82 00:06:31,882 --> 00:06:34,157 Our author has to be going to the airport soon... 83 00:06:34,468 --> 00:06:37,267 ... so thank you all very much for coming over this afternoon. 84 00:06:37,597 --> 00:06:40,712 And a special thanks to Mr. Wallace for being with us. 85 00:06:41,056 --> 00:06:42,409 Thank you. Thank you. 86 00:06:42,641 --> 00:06:45,235 We hope to see you here again with your next book. 87 00:06:51,942 --> 00:06:55,173 Thank you all. How much longer before I have to go to the airport ? 88 00:06:55,488 --> 00:06:57,047 Oh, you should leave at 7:30... 89 00:06:57,365 --> 00:06:59,799 - Seven-thirty at the very latest. - Okay. 90 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:07,987 - Hi. - Hello. 91 00:07:10,755 --> 00:07:13,349 - How are you ? - Good, and you ? 92 00:07:15,258 --> 00:07:17,931 I'm good, yeah, I'm great. I'm... 93 00:07:18,845 --> 00:07:21,076 Do you wanna, maybe, get a cup of coffee ? 94 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:24,288 Didn't he just say you have a plane to catch ? 95 00:07:25,434 --> 00:07:28,232 Yeah. But, I mean, I have a little time. 96 00:07:28,729 --> 00:07:31,881 - Okay. - Yeah ? All right, well, let me... 97 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,225 I'll meet you outside. Okay. 98 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:38,345 Excuse me. I'm just gonna go get a cup of coffee. 99 00:07:38,656 --> 00:07:40,806 - I'll be back at 7:15. - Did you sign all these ? 100 00:07:41,075 --> 00:07:43,590 - Yeah, I sure did. - Get your driver Philippe's card... 101 00:07:43,912 --> 00:07:46,301 ... so you can call his cell if you're running late. 102 00:07:46,623 --> 00:07:49,091 We'll put your bags in the car so you're not late. 103 00:07:49,417 --> 00:07:51,851 - All right, thanks for everything. - Thank you. 104 00:07:54,298 --> 00:07:56,175 Which one's Philippe ? 105 00:08:14,191 --> 00:08:17,389 - I can't believe you're here. - I live here in Paris. 106 00:08:18,947 --> 00:08:22,143 Are you sure you don't have to stay ? You're not supposed to talk more ? 107 00:08:22,491 --> 00:08:24,447 They're sick of me. I spent the night here. 108 00:08:24,743 --> 00:08:27,941 - You did ? - Yeah, they got a loft upstairs. 109 00:08:28,457 --> 00:08:30,732 - How are you ? This is so weird. - I'm fine. 110 00:08:31,042 --> 00:08:34,591 - It's good to see you. - It's good to see you. 111 00:08:37,132 --> 00:08:39,442 - So you want to go to a café ? - Yeah. 112 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,035 Okay. There's one a little further that I like. 113 00:08:42,305 --> 00:08:46,013 I thought I was gonna totally lose it in there when I first saw you. 114 00:08:46,391 --> 00:08:48,063 How did you know I was gonna be here ? 115 00:08:48,351 --> 00:08:52,550 It's my favorite bookstore in Paris. You can sit down for hours and read. 116 00:08:52,899 --> 00:08:54,808 I love it. There's fleas, but, you know... 117 00:08:55,065 --> 00:08:57,340 I know. I think a cat slept on my head last night. 118 00:08:57,610 --> 00:09:00,125 I saw your picture on the calendar about a month ago... 119 00:09:00,405 --> 00:09:02,202 ... and that you were going to be here. 120 00:09:02,699 --> 00:09:05,497 It's funny, because I read an article on your book... 121 00:09:05,785 --> 00:09:09,619 ... and it sounded vaguely familiar. - Vaguely ? Yeah. 122 00:09:10,164 --> 00:09:13,840 But I didn't put it all together until I saw your photo. So... 123 00:09:14,169 --> 00:09:16,239 Did you have a chance to read it ? 124 00:09:16,546 --> 00:09:17,899 Yes, I... 125 00:09:18,131 --> 00:09:20,486 I was really, really surprised, as you can imagine. 126 00:09:20,801 --> 00:09:23,316 I mean, I had to read it twice, actually. 127 00:09:23,638 --> 00:09:25,594 - Yeah ? - Yeah. 128 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:29,612 No, I liked it. It's very romantic. 129 00:09:29,893 --> 00:09:32,453 I usually don't like that, but it's really well-written. 130 00:09:32,771 --> 00:09:35,650 - It's well-written. Congratulations. - All right. Thank you. 131 00:09:36,192 --> 00:09:37,989 - Wait. - What ? 132 00:09:38,277 --> 00:09:42,063 Before we go anywhere, I have to ask you... 133 00:09:42,655 --> 00:09:44,168 Sure. What ? 134 00:09:44,406 --> 00:09:47,285 Did you show up in Vienna that December ? 135 00:09:49,246 --> 00:09:53,443 - Did you ? - No, I couldn't. But did you ? 136 00:09:53,791 --> 00:09:57,023 - I need to know. It's important to me. - Why, if you didn't ? 137 00:09:57,546 --> 00:09:59,457 Well, did you ? 138 00:09:59,714 --> 00:10:01,147 No. 139 00:10:02,843 --> 00:10:04,276 Thank God you didn't. 140 00:10:04,553 --> 00:10:06,271 - Oh, my God. - Thank God you didn't. 141 00:10:06,555 --> 00:10:09,912 Thank God I didn't and you didn't. If one of us had showed up alone... 142 00:10:10,226 --> 00:10:12,535 ... that would have sucked. - I was so concerned. 143 00:10:12,811 --> 00:10:16,520 I felt horrible about not being there, but I couldn't. My grandma died... 144 00:10:16,898 --> 00:10:19,049 ... and she was buried that day, December 16th. 145 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,828 - The one in Budapest ? - Yes. You remember that ? 146 00:10:22,155 --> 00:10:24,826 - I remember everything. - Of course, it was in your book. 147 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:28,265 But anyway, I was about to fly to Vienna, you know... 148 00:10:28,617 --> 00:10:32,497 ... and we heard the news about her, and of course I had to go to the funeral. 149 00:10:32,831 --> 00:10:34,503 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. 150 00:10:34,749 --> 00:10:38,343 I know. But you weren't there anyway. 151 00:10:38,711 --> 00:10:41,101 Wait. Why weren't you there ? 152 00:10:41,423 --> 00:10:44,620 I would have been there if I could have. I made plans... 153 00:10:44,968 --> 00:10:47,084 You better have a good reason. 154 00:10:47,387 --> 00:10:48,661 What ? 155 00:10:50,807 --> 00:10:52,207 Oh, no. 156 00:10:52,935 --> 00:10:54,891 No, you were there, weren't you ? 157 00:10:55,188 --> 00:10:57,747 Oh, no, that's terrible ! 158 00:10:58,064 --> 00:10:59,702 I'm laughing, but I don't mean it. 159 00:10:59,941 --> 00:11:01,738 Did you hate me ? You must've hated me. 160 00:11:01,985 --> 00:11:04,136 - Have you been hating me all this time ? - No. 161 00:11:04,405 --> 00:11:05,679 - Yes, you have. - No. 162 00:11:05,948 --> 00:11:07,700 But you can't hate me now, right ? 163 00:11:07,992 --> 00:11:10,982 - I mean, my grandma... - I don't hate you. It's no big deal. 164 00:11:11,327 --> 00:11:13,761 I flew all the way over there, you blew the thing off. 165 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:17,038 My life's been a big nosedive since, but it's not a problem. 166 00:11:17,375 --> 00:11:20,093 - No, I'm kidding. - Don't say that. I can't believe it. 167 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:22,774 You must have been so angry with me. I'm so sorry. 168 00:11:23,047 --> 00:11:25,482 I wanted to be there, more than anything in the world. 169 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,398 - Honestly, I swear... - You can't be angry, my grandmother... 170 00:11:28,678 --> 00:11:32,193 I know. I honestly thought that something like that might have happened. 171 00:11:32,516 --> 00:11:34,507 I was definitely bummed, but... 172 00:11:34,768 --> 00:11:38,318 Mostly I was mad we hadn't exchanged any phone numbers or any information. 173 00:11:38,648 --> 00:11:40,559 That was so stupid. No way to get in touch. 174 00:11:40,817 --> 00:11:43,046 - Nothing to go on. - I didn't know your last name. 175 00:11:43,318 --> 00:11:46,390 Remember, we were both afraid if we started writing and calling... 176 00:11:46,696 --> 00:11:50,087 ... that it would slowly fade out. - It definitely wasn't a slow fade. 177 00:11:50,409 --> 00:11:51,603 No, it sure wasn't. 178 00:11:51,828 --> 00:11:53,578 We wanted to pick up where we left off. 179 00:11:53,828 --> 00:11:57,059 Which would have been fine if it had worked. Oh, well. 180 00:11:58,541 --> 00:12:00,021 So... 181 00:12:00,669 --> 00:12:03,741 - How long were you in Vienna, then ? - Just a couple days. 182 00:12:05,422 --> 00:12:07,492 Did you meet another girl ? 183 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,269 Yeah, her name was Gretchen and she was amazing. 184 00:12:10,595 --> 00:12:13,189 The book's really a composite of the two of you. 185 00:12:13,515 --> 00:12:17,144 No, I'm kidding. You wouldn't believe... I even went back to the train station. 186 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:21,432 I put up signs of my number in the hotel in case you'd been delayed. 187 00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:24,288 - I was a total dork. - Let's go this way. Did you get any calls ? 188 00:12:24,777 --> 00:12:27,734 Just a couple hookers looking for a gig. 189 00:12:28,071 --> 00:12:30,505 No, it was awful, I mean, what do you want me to say ? 190 00:12:30,782 --> 00:12:32,135 It's so sad. I'm so sorry. 191 00:12:32,409 --> 00:12:35,368 I walked around for a couple days. Eventually, I flew home. 192 00:12:35,705 --> 00:12:37,855 I owed my dad 2000 bucks... 193 00:12:38,166 --> 00:12:40,075 ... who had warned me about French chicks. 194 00:12:40,374 --> 00:12:42,171 What did he tell you about French women ? 195 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:44,452 Nothing. He's never met any French women. 196 00:12:44,754 --> 00:12:46,904 He's never been east of the Mississippi. 197 00:12:47,174 --> 00:12:51,246 Why didn't you put, "Six months later, the French bitch didn't show up" ? 198 00:12:51,594 --> 00:12:53,107 No, but I did, I did. 199 00:12:53,387 --> 00:12:56,186 - You did ? - Yeah. No. I made it more hopeful. 200 00:12:56,516 --> 00:12:58,950 I wrote this fictional version where you do show up. 201 00:12:59,269 --> 00:13:01,624 - Oh, what happens ? - Well... 202 00:13:03,023 --> 00:13:04,581 What ? 203 00:13:05,066 --> 00:13:07,945 We make love for about 0 days straight, that's one part of it. 204 00:13:08,237 --> 00:13:10,910 - Interesting. So the French slut, right ? - Yeah, exactly. 205 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,628 It's just then they get to know each other better... 206 00:13:13,909 --> 00:13:15,820 ... and realize they don't get along at all. 207 00:13:16,119 --> 00:13:19,271 - I like that. It's more real. - My editor didn't think that way. 208 00:13:19,582 --> 00:13:21,618 Everyone wants to believe in love. It sells. 209 00:13:21,876 --> 00:13:23,785 Yeah, exactly, so... 210 00:13:24,585 --> 00:13:27,053 So things are going well for you, right ? I mean... 211 00:13:27,379 --> 00:13:30,452 - Your book is a bestseller in the U. S. - It's a tiny bestseller. 212 00:13:30,801 --> 00:13:32,712 - Oh, come on. - All right. Officially, yes. 213 00:13:33,011 --> 00:13:36,002 Most people haven't read Moby Dick. Why should they read my book ? 214 00:13:36,305 --> 00:13:38,455 I haven't read Moby Dick and I liked your book. 215 00:13:38,724 --> 00:13:40,920 - Thanks. - Even though... 216 00:13:41,228 --> 00:13:43,867 ... I thought you idealized the night of it. 217 00:13:44,189 --> 00:13:45,827 Come on, it's fiction, right ? 218 00:13:46,066 --> 00:13:47,658 - I'm supposed to... - I know, I know. 219 00:13:47,943 --> 00:13:51,016 I know. I thought there were times where you made me... 220 00:13:51,364 --> 00:13:55,562 Well, I mean, her, right ? No, me. Okay, whatever. 221 00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:58,867 - A little bit neurotic. - You are a bit like that, aren't you ? 222 00:13:59,204 --> 00:14:02,322 - You think I'm neurotic ? - No, no, no. Come on, I'm kidding. 223 00:14:02,625 --> 00:14:04,422 Where did I do that ? I didn't do that. 224 00:14:04,669 --> 00:14:07,263 Oh, maybe it's just me, you know... 225 00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:10,457 Reading something, knowing the character is based on you... 226 00:14:10,798 --> 00:14:13,358 ... it's both flattering and disturbing at the same time. 227 00:14:13,677 --> 00:14:15,110 How is it disturbing ? 228 00:14:15,387 --> 00:14:19,425 I don't know. Just being part of someone else's memory. 229 00:14:19,765 --> 00:14:22,279 Seeing myself through your eyes. 230 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,870 How long did it take you to write it ? 231 00:14:25,939 --> 00:14:27,657 Three or four years, on and off. 232 00:14:27,941 --> 00:14:30,978 Wow, that's a really long time to be writing about one night. 233 00:14:31,319 --> 00:14:33,879 Yeah, I know. Tell me about it. 234 00:14:34,281 --> 00:14:36,637 I always assumed you had forgotten me. 235 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,799 No, I had a pretty clear picture of you in my mind. 236 00:14:40,121 --> 00:14:42,429 - I have to tell you something. I just... - What ? 237 00:14:42,706 --> 00:14:46,335 I've wanted to talk to you for so long that now... It's just surreal, you know ? 238 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:48,383 I feel like everything should be... 239 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:50,938 How long do we have ? Twenty minutes and 30 seconds ? 240 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:53,450 We got more than that. I wanna know about you. 241 00:14:53,757 --> 00:14:56,271 Tell me, what are you doing ? What are you up to ? 242 00:14:56,594 --> 00:15:01,032 Where to start ? I work for Green Cross. It's an environmental organization. 243 00:15:01,433 --> 00:15:02,707 What are they all about ? 244 00:15:02,976 --> 00:15:05,443 We basically work on different environment issues... 245 00:15:05,728 --> 00:15:08,242 ... from clean water to disarmament of chemical weapons. 246 00:15:08,522 --> 00:15:10,878 International laws that deal with the environment. 247 00:15:11,151 --> 00:15:13,426 - What do you do for them ? - We're going this way. 248 00:15:13,945 --> 00:15:15,219 Different things. 249 00:15:15,489 --> 00:15:19,198 Like, last year I was in India for a while, working on a water-treatment plant. 250 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,358 Well, the cotton industry there is a major source of pollution, so... 251 00:15:23,664 --> 00:15:26,461 I mean, it sounds like you're actually doing something. 252 00:15:26,792 --> 00:15:30,102 Most people, myself included, just sit around and bitch. 253 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:34,892 You know, how America's consuming all the world's resources, SUVs suck... 254 00:15:35,259 --> 00:15:36,578 ... global warming is real... 255 00:15:36,844 --> 00:15:40,073 I'm relieved to hear you're not one of those "freedom fries" Americans. 256 00:15:40,387 --> 00:15:42,696 Hey, you know... But how'd you get into that ? 257 00:15:42,974 --> 00:15:46,125 I came out of political science, hoping to work for the government. 258 00:15:46,478 --> 00:15:49,071 - And I did for a little while. Terrible. - Not good ? 259 00:15:49,396 --> 00:15:52,866 Yeah, no. Anyway, I got really tired... Let's go this way. 260 00:15:53,234 --> 00:15:55,430 Having this endless conversation with friends... 261 00:15:55,695 --> 00:15:57,845 ... about how the world was falling to pieces. 262 00:15:58,156 --> 00:16:00,465 So I decided what I really wanted to do was... 263 00:16:00,784 --> 00:16:03,981 ... to find things that could be fixed and try to fix them, you know ? 264 00:16:04,329 --> 00:16:07,925 You know, I always thought you'd be doing something cool like that. I did. 265 00:16:08,292 --> 00:16:13,001 Thanks. I just feel really, really lucky to be doing a job I like, you know ? 266 00:16:13,421 --> 00:16:14,820 Yeah. 267 00:16:15,048 --> 00:16:19,600 I actually alternate in between thinking everything is irrevocably screwed up... 268 00:16:19,971 --> 00:16:22,164 ... and things might be getting better in ways. 269 00:16:22,471 --> 00:16:24,780 Better ? How could you possibly say that ? 270 00:16:25,057 --> 00:16:26,775 Well, I just mean, you know, like... 271 00:16:27,017 --> 00:16:30,533 I know it sounds weird, but there are things to be optimistic about. 272 00:16:30,897 --> 00:16:35,412 Okay... I know your book is selling, which is great, I'm very happy for you. 273 00:16:35,818 --> 00:16:38,936 But let me break the news to you: The world is a mess right now. 274 00:16:39,281 --> 00:16:41,670 From a Western view, things are getting a bit better. 275 00:16:41,992 --> 00:16:45,428 We're moving industry to developing nations where we can get cheap labor... 276 00:16:45,787 --> 00:16:48,904 ... free of any environmental laws. The weapon industry is booming. 277 00:16:49,207 --> 00:16:52,041 Five million people die a year from preventable water disease. 278 00:16:52,378 --> 00:16:55,256 How is the world getting better ? I'm not angry, I'm not angry. 279 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:57,580 But come on, I want to know. I'm interested. 280 00:16:57,883 --> 00:17:01,239 I realize that there are a lot of serious problems in the world. 281 00:17:01,596 --> 00:17:03,746 - Okay. Thank you. - I mean, I don't even have... 282 00:17:04,056 --> 00:17:07,285 ... one publisher in the Asian market. - Okay. All right. 283 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:10,933 - Say stop. - What ? Stop. 284 00:17:11,228 --> 00:17:14,983 Look, all I'm saying is there's more awareness. People are gonna fight back. 285 00:17:15,317 --> 00:17:18,194 The world might be getting better because people like you... 286 00:17:18,486 --> 00:17:20,044 ... are educated and speaking out. 287 00:17:20,571 --> 00:17:23,769 Even the very notion of conservation, environmental issues... 288 00:17:24,117 --> 00:17:26,392 ... weren't in the vocabulary till fairly recently. 289 00:17:26,661 --> 00:17:30,574 And they're becoming the norm and eventually might be what's expected. 290 00:17:30,957 --> 00:17:33,790 I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time it's dangerous. 291 00:17:34,127 --> 00:17:36,642 An imperialist country can use that kind of thinking... 292 00:17:36,923 --> 00:17:38,993 ... to justify their economic greed. 293 00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:44,429 Is there any particular imperialist country you have in mind, there, Frenchie ? 294 00:17:44,763 --> 00:17:46,880 - No, not really. - No ? 295 00:17:52,394 --> 00:17:55,750 - So you wanna sit over there ? - Yeah, this is perfect. 296 00:17:56,273 --> 00:17:58,913 Oh, wow. Maybe what I'm saying is... 297 00:17:59,236 --> 00:18:02,034 ... the world might be evolving the way a person evolves. 298 00:18:02,322 --> 00:18:05,233 Like, I mean, me, for example. Am I getting worse ? 299 00:18:05,533 --> 00:18:09,573 Am I improving ? I don't know. When I was younger, I was healthier... 300 00:18:09,913 --> 00:18:12,302 ... but I was wracked with insecurity, you know ? 301 00:18:13,041 --> 00:18:15,032 Now I'm older and my problems are deeper... 302 00:18:15,293 --> 00:18:17,090 ... but I'm more equipped to handle them. 303 00:18:17,921 --> 00:18:19,992 So, what are your problems ? 304 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:25,945 Right now I don't have any. I don't, you know ? I'm just... 305 00:18:26,304 --> 00:18:27,976 ... damn happy to be here. 306 00:18:28,473 --> 00:18:29,986 Me too. 307 00:18:33,062 --> 00:18:35,212 So how long have you been in Paris ? 308 00:18:35,523 --> 00:18:38,797 I got in last night. I've done 10 cities in 12 days. 309 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:41,380 I'm wrecked. I'm so glad it's over, you know ? 310 00:18:41,694 --> 00:18:43,094 I'm tired of being a huckster. 311 00:18:43,738 --> 00:18:45,171 - Hi. - Hello. 312 00:18:45,449 --> 00:18:46,882 What do you want ? 313 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:49,035 A cup of coffee. 314 00:18:52,872 --> 00:18:56,468 God, I love this café. I wish they had places like this in the U. S. 315 00:18:57,043 --> 00:18:59,432 Yeah, I missed cafés when I was living over there. 316 00:18:59,754 --> 00:19:02,507 I mean, I find a few places I really liked, but there was... 317 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:06,676 - You were living in the U. S. ? - Yes, from '96 to '99. 318 00:19:07,054 --> 00:19:08,567 I was studying at NYU. 319 00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:11,528 Oh, God, don't tell me that, Céline. 320 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:13,806 - What ? - No, it's just... 321 00:19:14,102 --> 00:19:15,741 - Nothing, I mean, I... - What ? 322 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:19,211 I've been living in New York since '98. We were there at the same time. 323 00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:21,038 - In New York ? - Yeah. 324 00:19:21,275 --> 00:19:25,791 That's weird. It actually crossed my mind a few times that I might run into you... 325 00:19:26,155 --> 00:19:28,386 ... but the odds are so slim, right ? So... 326 00:19:29,075 --> 00:19:30,906 I didn't even know what city you were in. 327 00:19:31,161 --> 00:19:34,516 - Weren't you somewhere in Texas ? - Yeah, yeah, definitely. I just... 328 00:19:34,872 --> 00:19:38,229 I was for a long time. I just, you know, wanted to try New York. 329 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:42,012 What brought you back here ? 330 00:19:42,297 --> 00:19:44,208 I had finished my master's, for one... 331 00:19:44,508 --> 00:19:46,624 ... and no visa, no more visa. 332 00:19:46,927 --> 00:19:51,126 And I was starting to get paranoid. All the violence in the medias: 333 00:19:51,474 --> 00:19:54,591 Gang violence, murders, especially serial killers... 334 00:19:56,353 --> 00:19:57,945 But the final straw was... 335 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:00,984 ... one night I heard some noise on my fire escape... 336 00:20:01,317 --> 00:20:03,751 ... so I called 911, and the cops came eventually. 337 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:07,424 - Like three hours later. - Yeah, after I had been raped and killed. 338 00:20:08,197 --> 00:20:10,586 No, but it was a man and a woman officer. 339 00:20:10,908 --> 00:20:12,820 I was explaining what I had heard... 340 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,315 ... when the woman had to go move the police car. 341 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:17,217 I was left alone with the male cop. 342 00:20:17,456 --> 00:20:21,734 Right away he asked me if I had a gun, and I said, "No, of course not. " 343 00:20:22,128 --> 00:20:24,882 And he told me, "Well, you better think about getting one. 344 00:20:25,215 --> 00:20:28,412 This is America, not France. Okay ?" 345 00:20:28,718 --> 00:20:31,710 And I said to him, "I have no idea how to shoot a gun... 346 00:20:32,055 --> 00:20:34,445 ... and I have no interest in firearms whatsoever. " 347 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:38,396 And that's when he pulled out his gun, like this, and he went: 348 00:20:38,771 --> 00:20:44,003 "Well, one day, you're gonna have something like this in your face... 349 00:20:44,484 --> 00:20:46,715 ... and if you wanna have a long life... 350 00:20:47,405 --> 00:20:51,032 ... you're gonna have to choose between you or them. " 351 00:20:52,283 --> 00:20:56,482 And then they left. And the next morning I called for an application to get a gun. 352 00:20:56,872 --> 00:20:59,261 Me with a gun. I mean, that's really scary. 353 00:20:59,583 --> 00:21:01,619 But then I realized something was wrong. 354 00:21:01,917 --> 00:21:05,307 The way that cop had pulled his gun out, and everything, right ? 355 00:21:05,671 --> 00:21:07,423 So I canceled my demand for the gun... 356 00:21:07,674 --> 00:21:10,666 ... and I called the police and tried to complain about that cop. 357 00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:13,437 - What happened with that ? - It was so much paperwork... 358 00:21:13,722 --> 00:21:16,441 ... and then I got scared, with my shitty student visa... 359 00:21:16,725 --> 00:21:19,035 - Thought you'd get deported ? - Exactly. I gave up... 360 00:21:19,312 --> 00:21:21,030 ... and forgot about the whole thing. 361 00:21:21,314 --> 00:21:24,749 - Well, I guess I never forgot. - Obviously. 362 00:21:25,108 --> 00:21:27,542 But still, you know, I really enjoyed being there. 363 00:21:27,861 --> 00:21:30,854 - There's lots of things I miss in the U. S. - Yeah ? Like what ? 364 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:34,463 Well... 365 00:21:34,744 --> 00:21:37,131 The overall good mood people have there. 366 00:21:37,453 --> 00:21:39,444 Like, even if it can be bullshit sometimes. 367 00:21:39,705 --> 00:21:42,379 Like, "How you doing ?" "Great. " "How you doing ?" "Great !" 368 00:21:42,918 --> 00:21:44,954 "Have a great day !" 369 00:21:45,462 --> 00:21:48,931 I don't know. Parisians can be so grumpy. Have you noticed ? 370 00:21:49,298 --> 00:21:51,812 No, everybody seems pretty happy to me. 371 00:21:52,636 --> 00:21:55,434 - They're not happy. No. - They're not happy ? 372 00:21:55,722 --> 00:21:58,953 No, they are. I don't know. I just mean French men. They drive me nuts. 373 00:21:59,309 --> 00:22:00,628 What is it ? What about them ? 374 00:22:01,019 --> 00:22:03,898 Well, they're very nice. They're great, you know, to be around. 375 00:22:04,232 --> 00:22:06,143 They love food, wine, they're great cooks. 376 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,311 But I've had really bad luck with them. 377 00:22:08,569 --> 00:22:10,126 Why ? What do you mean ? 378 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:13,907 - Well, I guess they're not as... - What ? 379 00:22:14,241 --> 00:22:15,755 What's the word ? 380 00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:20,020 - Horny ? They're not as horny. - Horny ? 381 00:22:20,371 --> 00:22:24,489 Wait, listen to me on this one. In that regard, I am proud to be an American. 382 00:22:24,834 --> 00:22:26,666 And you should be. In that regard only. 383 00:22:27,921 --> 00:22:29,832 Have you ever spent time in Eastern Europe ? 384 00:22:30,382 --> 00:22:32,770 Eastern... No, I don't. Thank you. 385 00:22:33,926 --> 00:22:36,394 I remember as a teenager I went to Warsaw... 386 00:22:36,679 --> 00:22:39,114 ... when it was still a strict communist regime. 387 00:22:39,432 --> 00:22:41,707 - Which I don't approve of at all. - Sure you don't. 388 00:22:42,018 --> 00:22:43,929 - No, I don't. - I'm just kidding. 389 00:22:44,187 --> 00:22:46,985 But anyway, something about being there was very interesting. 390 00:22:47,274 --> 00:22:50,392 After a couple of weeks, something changed in me. 391 00:22:50,695 --> 00:22:53,732 The city was quite gloomy and gray... 392 00:22:54,030 --> 00:22:56,669 ... but after a while, my brain seemed clearer. 393 00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:58,542 I was writing more in my journal... 394 00:22:58,827 --> 00:23:01,865 ... ideas I'd never thought of before... - Communist ideas ? 395 00:23:02,206 --> 00:23:04,276 - Listen, I'm not... - I'm sorry, I... 396 00:23:04,584 --> 00:23:06,254 - Okay. - Go on. 397 00:23:06,542 --> 00:23:09,010 Okay. I'll send you to a gulag later. 398 00:23:09,295 --> 00:23:12,606 No. But it took me a while to figure out why I felt so different. 399 00:23:12,924 --> 00:23:15,484 One day, as I was walking through the Jewish cemetery... 400 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,590 ... I don't know why, but it occurred to me there... 401 00:23:17,845 --> 00:23:21,554 ... I realized that I had spent the last two weeks away from most of my habits. 402 00:23:21,892 --> 00:23:23,803 TV was in a language I didn't understand... 403 00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:26,699 ... there was nothing to buy, no advertisements anywhere... 404 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:28,538 ... so all I'd been doing was... 405 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:33,326 ... walk around, think, and write. My brain felt like it was at rest... 406 00:23:33,738 --> 00:23:37,174 ... free from the consuming frenzy. It was almost like a natural high. 407 00:23:37,533 --> 00:23:41,889 I felt so peaceful inside. No strange urge to be somewhere else... 408 00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:43,561 ... to shop... 409 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:45,867 It could have seemed like boredom at first... 410 00:23:46,125 --> 00:23:47,843 ... but it became very, very soulful. 411 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,397 It was interesting, you know ? 412 00:23:50,628 --> 00:23:53,825 Can you believe it was nine years ago we were walking around Vienna ? 413 00:23:54,465 --> 00:23:58,015 - Nine years ? No, that's impossible. - No, it was. It feels like two months. 414 00:23:58,386 --> 00:24:00,217 But it was summer '94. 415 00:24:02,515 --> 00:24:04,710 Do I look any different ? 416 00:24:06,393 --> 00:24:08,032 I do ? 417 00:24:08,897 --> 00:24:10,091 I'd have to see you naked. 418 00:24:10,524 --> 00:24:12,401 - What ? - I know, I'm sorry. 419 00:24:12,692 --> 00:24:14,967 Your hair was different back then. It was like... 420 00:24:15,237 --> 00:24:17,546 - It's the same... Oh, down. - Yeah, take it down. 421 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:19,496 Down. Okay, it was down. Okay. 422 00:24:19,784 --> 00:24:21,854 Well ? Voilà. 423 00:24:22,203 --> 00:24:23,635 So ? 424 00:24:25,747 --> 00:24:27,146 Okay, come on. Tell me. 425 00:24:31,212 --> 00:24:33,680 Skinnier, I think. A little thinner. 426 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:36,318 Did you think I was fat before ? 427 00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:39,388 - No... - Yeah, you thought I was a fatty. 428 00:24:39,718 --> 00:24:43,598 No, you thought I was a fatty. You wrote a book about a fat French girl. 429 00:24:43,932 --> 00:24:45,762 - No, listen. - Oh, no. 430 00:24:46,058 --> 00:24:48,094 Seriously, all right ? You look beautiful. 431 00:24:48,394 --> 00:24:50,305 Do I look any different ? 432 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:54,120 No. Not at all. Actually, you have this line. 433 00:24:54,484 --> 00:24:56,793 - I know. - It's like a scar. 434 00:24:57,112 --> 00:25:01,344 - A scar ? Like a gunshot wound ? - No, no, no. I like it. I'm sorry. 435 00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:07,465 I had this funny... Well, horrible dream the other day. 436 00:25:08,707 --> 00:25:12,586 I was having this awful nightmare that I was 32. 437 00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:15,992 And then I woke up, and I was 23. So relieved. 438 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:18,808 And then I woke up for real, and I was 32. 439 00:25:19,135 --> 00:25:21,488 - Shit, man. It happens. - Scary. 440 00:25:21,802 --> 00:25:24,362 Time goes faster and faster. Apparently, it's because... 441 00:25:24,638 --> 00:25:27,949 ... we don't renew synapses after our 20s, so it's downhill from then on. 442 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:32,146 I like getting older, you know ? Life feels... 443 00:25:32,563 --> 00:25:35,953 I don't know, it feels more immediate. Like I can appreciate things more. 444 00:25:36,985 --> 00:25:39,453 No, me too, actually. I really love it. 445 00:25:40,030 --> 00:25:41,748 I was once... 446 00:25:42,032 --> 00:25:43,351 ... a drummer in a band. 447 00:25:43,617 --> 00:25:46,085 - You were ? - Yeah. We were pretty good, actually. 448 00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:50,451 But the lead-singer guy, he was just so obsessed with us getting a record deal. 449 00:25:50,792 --> 00:25:53,624 It's all we talked about, thought about, getting bigger shows. 450 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,316 Everything was just focused on the future all the time. And now... 451 00:25:57,631 --> 00:25:59,429 ... the band doesn't even exist anymore. 452 00:25:59,675 --> 00:26:01,950 And looking back at the shows we did play... 453 00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:05,016 ... even rehearsing, it was just so much fun. 454 00:26:05,304 --> 00:26:09,343 I just... Now I'd enjoy every minute of it. Could I have a drag of that ? 455 00:26:09,768 --> 00:26:12,680 Well, your book has been published. That's a pretty big deal. 456 00:26:13,021 --> 00:26:16,137 You've been all around Europe. Are you enjoying every minute of it ? 457 00:26:16,982 --> 00:26:18,779 - Not really. - Not really ? 458 00:26:19,068 --> 00:26:20,387 No. 459 00:26:20,987 --> 00:26:23,547 - Do you have another one of those ? - Yes, of course. 460 00:26:25,742 --> 00:26:27,221 Here. 461 00:26:28,161 --> 00:26:31,153 In my field, I see these people that... Oh, sorry. 462 00:26:31,498 --> 00:26:33,933 Come into it with big, idealist visions... 463 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,849 ... of becoming the leader that will create a better world. 464 00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:39,245 They enjoy the goal, but not the process. 465 00:26:39,548 --> 00:26:41,345 - Right. - But the reality of it is... 466 00:26:41,591 --> 00:26:44,868 ... the true work of improving things is in the little achievements. 467 00:26:45,221 --> 00:26:48,054 - That's what you need to enjoy. - What do you mean, exactly ? 468 00:26:48,391 --> 00:26:51,825 I was working for this organization that helped villages in Mexico. 469 00:26:52,643 --> 00:26:55,033 And their concerns was how to get the pencils... 470 00:26:55,313 --> 00:26:57,622 ... sent to the kid in those little country schools. 471 00:26:57,899 --> 00:27:01,573 It was not about big, revolutionary ideas. It was about pencils. 472 00:27:02,111 --> 00:27:05,421 I see the people that do the real work, and what's really sad is that... 473 00:27:05,949 --> 00:27:08,383 ... the people that are the most giving, hardworking... 474 00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:10,776 ... and capable of making this world better... 475 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,071 ... usually don't have the ego and ambition to be a leader. 476 00:27:14,416 --> 00:27:16,931 They don't see any interest in superficial rewards. 477 00:27:17,253 --> 00:27:20,165 They don't care if their name ever appear in the press. 478 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:23,178 They actually enjoy the process of helping others. 479 00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:26,102 - They're in the moment. - Yeah, but that's so hard... 480 00:27:26,386 --> 00:27:29,185 ... you know, to be in the moment. I mean, I feel like I'm... 481 00:27:29,474 --> 00:27:33,308 ... designed to be slightly dissatisfied with everything, you know ? 482 00:27:33,643 --> 00:27:36,031 It's like always trying to better my situation. 483 00:27:36,353 --> 00:27:39,664 I satisfy one desire, and it just agitates another. 484 00:27:39,983 --> 00:27:43,373 And then I think, to hell with it, right ? Desire's the fuel of life. 485 00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:46,413 You know ? Do you think it's true... 486 00:27:46,739 --> 00:27:49,537 ... that if we never wanted anything, we'd never be unhappy ? 487 00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:54,703 I don't know. Not wanting anything, isn't that a symptom of depression ? 488 00:27:55,081 --> 00:27:58,551 Yeah, that is, right ? I mean, it's healthy to desire, right ? 489 00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:02,390 Yeah. I don't know. It's what all those Buddhist guys say, right ? 490 00:28:02,757 --> 00:28:05,032 Liberate yourself from desire, and you'll find... 491 00:28:05,301 --> 00:28:08,372 ... you already have everything you need. - But I feel alive... 492 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,393 ... when I want something more than basic survival needs. 493 00:28:11,681 --> 00:28:14,401 Wanting, whether it's intimacy with another person... 494 00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:16,399 ... or a pair of shoes, is beautiful. 495 00:28:16,687 --> 00:28:20,075 I like that we have those ever-renewing desires, you know ? 496 00:28:20,439 --> 00:28:22,077 Maybe it's this sense of entitlement. 497 00:28:22,358 --> 00:28:25,954 You know, like whenever you feel like you deserve that new pair of shoes ? 498 00:28:26,321 --> 00:28:30,029 It's okay to want things, as long as you aren't pissed off if you don't get them. 499 00:28:30,366 --> 00:28:32,163 Life's hard. It's supposed to be. 500 00:28:32,451 --> 00:28:35,330 If we didn't suffer, we wouldn't learn a thing, you know ? 501 00:28:36,832 --> 00:28:38,663 So, what, are you Buddhist, or something ? 502 00:28:39,793 --> 00:28:42,353 - No. - No ? Why not ? 503 00:28:42,879 --> 00:28:47,431 I don't know. The same reason I don't really consider myself anything, really. 504 00:28:48,010 --> 00:28:51,286 I decided a long time ago that I was gonna be open to everything... 505 00:28:51,639 --> 00:28:54,027 ... but not buy into any one and only belief system. 506 00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:58,760 I went to this Trappist monastery a couple years ago. 507 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,187 - Trappist ? - Yeah, they're Catholic. Cistercian. 508 00:29:03,607 --> 00:29:07,077 - Why did you do that ? - Why ? I'd been doing some reading. 509 00:29:07,445 --> 00:29:11,121 Thought it'd be cool. Have you ever spent any time with monks or nuns ? 510 00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:14,812 - No. It's not really my style. - No ? 511 00:29:15,744 --> 00:29:19,623 Well, I expected them to be all glowering and stern, but they weren't. 512 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,468 They were quick to laugh, really easy to be around. 513 00:29:22,794 --> 00:29:25,672 Seriously, very attuned to everything, they were just... 514 00:29:26,047 --> 00:29:28,356 You know, they weren't trying to hustle anybody. 515 00:29:28,675 --> 00:29:31,064 They're trying to live and die in peace with God... 516 00:29:31,387 --> 00:29:33,776 ... or whatever part of them they feel is eternal. 517 00:29:34,098 --> 00:29:35,975 It was just so refreshing to be around. 518 00:29:36,225 --> 00:29:38,613 You realize that most of the people that you meet... 519 00:29:38,894 --> 00:29:40,612 ... are trying to get somewhere better. 520 00:29:40,854 --> 00:29:43,927 They're trying to make more cash, get a little more respect... 521 00:29:44,275 --> 00:29:46,584 ... have more people admire them. It's exhausting. 522 00:29:46,903 --> 00:29:49,893 - No kidding. - And it's exhausting to be one yourself. 523 00:29:50,237 --> 00:29:53,468 There I am, right, you know, all greedy to be more spiritual. 524 00:29:53,784 --> 00:29:57,220 "I want to be a better person, " you know ? You can't escape. 525 00:29:57,537 --> 00:30:03,452 I had this boyfriend of mine many years ago that wanted to be a Buddhist. 526 00:30:04,084 --> 00:30:06,519 So he went to Asia to visit some of those monasteries. 527 00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:10,387 - I've thought about doing that too. - Yeah, you should. I'll tell you why. 528 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,990 He was good-looking, and each time he went to one of the monasteries... 529 00:30:14,304 --> 00:30:16,819 ... a monk offered to suck his cock. 530 00:30:17,141 --> 00:30:18,779 True story. 531 00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:22,107 It all comes down to that, doesn't it ? 532 00:30:22,437 --> 00:30:24,507 That's why I really admire what you're doing. 533 00:30:24,815 --> 00:30:26,851 - You know ? - What do you mean ? Sucking cock ? 534 00:30:27,151 --> 00:30:30,188 - No. - No ? Wrong answer. 535 00:30:30,488 --> 00:30:34,115 No, I was gonna say you're not detached from life. 536 00:30:34,490 --> 00:30:36,799 You're putting your passion into action. 537 00:30:37,118 --> 00:30:39,679 Well, I try. 538 00:30:40,413 --> 00:30:43,644 You know something ? I'm gonna be on planes... 539 00:30:43,958 --> 00:30:46,188 ... and in an airport for the next eight hours... 540 00:30:46,502 --> 00:30:48,777 I'd just love to see a little bit more of Paris. 541 00:30:49,171 --> 00:30:50,571 - Would you walk with me ? - Yeah. 542 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:52,073 - Do you mind ? - That's great. 543 00:30:52,342 --> 00:30:54,173 - Do you want to ? - Let's do that. Yeah. 544 00:30:54,469 --> 00:30:56,221 What do we owe here ? Four-fifty ? 545 00:30:56,513 --> 00:30:58,947 No, I got it, I got a little per diem going on here. 546 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:01,375 - This good, for a tip ? - Yeah, that's fine. 547 00:31:01,686 --> 00:31:03,916 - That's more than enough. - Throw that in too. 548 00:31:04,272 --> 00:31:07,627 - Is there anywhere to go around here ? - It's sales day today. 549 00:31:07,983 --> 00:31:10,781 - What's that ? - It's when everything's on sale in Paris. 550 00:31:11,403 --> 00:31:12,757 It's twice a year. 551 00:31:15,324 --> 00:31:16,916 All right, let's go shopping. 552 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,150 No, no, no. That's a bad idea. I don't wanna inflict that on you. 553 00:31:20,494 --> 00:31:24,249 It's madness. Let's just go to this garden path. It's really nice. 554 00:31:24,749 --> 00:31:27,058 All right. That sounds better than shopping, actually. 555 00:31:27,335 --> 00:31:29,370 Not that I wouldn't do whatever you wanted. 556 00:31:29,628 --> 00:31:32,506 Sometimes I don't even need to buy anything. I just get high... 557 00:31:32,798 --> 00:31:34,517 ... on trying on and looking at things. 558 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:36,477 Is this where we're going ? 559 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,870 - Yeah. - A therapist will tell you that's good. 560 00:31:39,139 --> 00:31:41,414 - Really ? Are you ever in therapy ? - Oh, no. 561 00:31:41,725 --> 00:31:44,637 - Do I seem like I'm in therapy ? - I'm kidding. 562 00:31:45,187 --> 00:31:48,863 - Does it help your sex problems ? - My sex problems ? 563 00:31:49,192 --> 00:31:50,671 - I'm kidding. - Tell me the truth. 564 00:31:50,943 --> 00:31:53,092 - We didn't have any problems. - No, I'm kidding. 565 00:31:53,403 --> 00:31:55,758 - We didn't even have sex. - That's a joke, right ? 566 00:31:56,072 --> 00:31:58,633 No, we didn't. I mean, that was the whole thing. 567 00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:00,866 - Of course we did. - No, no, no, we didn't. 568 00:32:01,162 --> 00:32:03,833 You didn't have a condom and I never have sex without one. 569 00:32:04,163 --> 00:32:05,960 I'm extremely paranoid. There's no way... 570 00:32:06,248 --> 00:32:08,683 I find it scary that you don't remember what happened. 571 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,279 No, listen... 572 00:32:10,504 --> 00:32:13,098 ... I didn't write an entire book, but I kept a journal... 573 00:32:13,423 --> 00:32:17,210 ... and I wrote the whole night in it. That's what I meant, you idealizing it. 574 00:32:17,551 --> 00:32:20,669 All right, listen, I even remember what brand of condom we used. 575 00:32:20,972 --> 00:32:22,803 That's disgusting. I don't wanna hear it. 576 00:32:23,058 --> 00:32:25,492 - That's not disgusting. - No. 577 00:32:25,852 --> 00:32:30,164 Okay, when I get home I'll check my journal from '94, but I know I'm right. 578 00:32:33,236 --> 00:32:35,067 - Wait a minute. - What ? 579 00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:37,959 - Was it in the cemetery ? - No. 580 00:32:38,281 --> 00:32:40,556 No, we went to the cemetery in the afternoon. 581 00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,625 It was in the park, very late at night. 582 00:32:44,122 --> 00:32:46,192 - In the park ? - Wait a minute, wait a minute. 583 00:32:46,457 --> 00:32:48,207 I can't... I can't... 584 00:32:49,208 --> 00:32:52,359 Is it that forgettable ? You really don't remember ? In the park ? 585 00:32:52,712 --> 00:32:55,431 Okay. Wait a minute, I think you might be right... 586 00:32:55,757 --> 00:32:57,031 You're messing with me now. 587 00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:58,618 - No. - Are you messing with me ? 588 00:32:58,884 --> 00:33:01,921 Okay. No, I'm sorry. I think... I mean, you're right, okay ? 589 00:33:02,263 --> 00:33:05,574 Sometimes I put things in drawers inside my head and forget about it. 590 00:33:05,934 --> 00:33:08,494 It's less painful to put things away than live with it. 591 00:33:08,812 --> 00:33:11,406 What, so that night was, like, a sad memory for you ? 592 00:33:11,731 --> 00:33:13,483 I didn't mean that night in particular. 593 00:33:13,733 --> 00:33:15,725 I meant certain things are better forgotten. 594 00:33:16,028 --> 00:33:18,417 I remember that night better than I do entire years. 595 00:33:18,739 --> 00:33:20,457 - Me too. - Really ? 596 00:33:20,699 --> 00:33:22,769 Well, I thought I did. 597 00:33:25,495 --> 00:33:29,011 But maybe I... Maybe I put it away because of the fact that... 598 00:33:29,333 --> 00:33:32,323 ... my grandmother's funeral was the day we were supposed to meet. 599 00:33:32,668 --> 00:33:35,501 It was a tough day for me, but it must've been worse for you. 600 00:33:35,838 --> 00:33:40,230 It was unreal. I remember looking at her dead body in the coffin... 601 00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:44,791 ... at her beautiful hands, so warm, so sweet, that used to hold me... 602 00:33:45,473 --> 00:33:48,625 ... but nothing in that coffin resembled what I remembered of her. 603 00:33:48,935 --> 00:33:50,448 All the warmth was gone. 604 00:33:50,771 --> 00:33:53,444 And then I was crying, so confused if I was crying... 605 00:33:53,732 --> 00:33:59,090 ... because I was never gonna see her again or never gonna see you again... 606 00:33:59,529 --> 00:34:03,205 I'm sorry. I'm sorry to go on like this. I've been a little down this week. 607 00:34:03,576 --> 00:34:06,453 - Why ? - I don't know. Nothing bad, just... 608 00:34:06,787 --> 00:34:08,664 Reading your book, maybe ? 609 00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:12,624 No, but... Thinking of how hopeful I was that summer and fall... 610 00:34:13,002 --> 00:34:15,118 ... and since then it's been kind of a... 611 00:34:15,797 --> 00:34:17,148 I don't know. 612 00:34:17,379 --> 00:34:21,372 Memory is a wonderful thing if you don't have to deal with the past. 613 00:34:24,262 --> 00:34:26,981 "Memory is wonderful if you don't have to deal with the past. " 614 00:34:27,265 --> 00:34:28,856 Can I put that on a bumper sticker ? 615 00:34:29,099 --> 00:34:31,693 If you wrote a book about our night, that's a good title. 616 00:34:31,977 --> 00:34:35,687 - And it could be a total different book. - Yeah, there'd be no sex scenes. 617 00:34:36,441 --> 00:34:37,715 - But you know what ? - What ? 618 00:34:37,984 --> 00:34:39,303 Now that we've met again... 619 00:34:39,569 --> 00:34:42,083 ... we can change our memory of that December 16. 620 00:34:42,364 --> 00:34:45,641 It no longer has that sad ending of us never seeing each other again. 621 00:34:45,993 --> 00:34:50,270 Right. I mean, I guess a memory's never finished as long as you're alive. 622 00:34:50,664 --> 00:34:54,100 Yeah, I know. I have this memory from my childhood... 623 00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:56,928 ... I realized recently never happened. - What ? 624 00:34:57,213 --> 00:35:00,046 Well, when I was 8 or 9, my mom was so paranoid... 625 00:35:00,341 --> 00:35:03,092 ... when I was walking home from my piano lesson at night... 626 00:35:03,384 --> 00:35:05,978 ... she'd warn me about dirty old men giving me candies... 627 00:35:06,262 --> 00:35:08,015 ... and then showing me their pee-pees. 628 00:35:08,265 --> 00:35:11,223 She was so obsessed with it that, later in life, you know... 629 00:35:11,518 --> 00:35:14,793 ... I had this image in my head that this really happened. 630 00:35:15,104 --> 00:35:18,495 To the point that I even associated sex with that walk home. 631 00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:22,366 I mean, and sometimes, even now, when I'm... 632 00:35:23,405 --> 00:35:27,193 When I'm having sex, I see myself walking down that street. 633 00:35:27,534 --> 00:35:29,366 I swear. It's so weird, right ? 634 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:33,659 - Is that street nearby ? I mean, could... ? - Could we ? No. 635 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,115 Very far. 636 00:35:37,377 --> 00:35:39,811 Did you ever keep a journal when you were a kid ? 637 00:35:40,088 --> 00:35:43,286 Yeah. On and off, I guess. 638 00:35:43,593 --> 00:35:45,663 It's funny, I read one of mine... 639 00:35:45,928 --> 00:35:47,723 ... from '83 the other day. - Yeah ? 640 00:35:48,137 --> 00:35:49,729 And what really surprised me is... 641 00:35:49,972 --> 00:35:52,771 ... that I was dealing with life the same way I am now. 642 00:35:53,101 --> 00:35:55,012 I was much more hopeful and naive... 643 00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:59,387 ... but the core, and the way I was feeling things, is exactly the same. 644 00:35:59,732 --> 00:36:01,962 It made me realize I haven't changed much at all. 645 00:36:02,234 --> 00:36:03,668 I don't think anybody does. 646 00:36:03,904 --> 00:36:07,533 People don't want to admit it, but it's like we have these innate set points... 647 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:11,336 ... and nothing much that happens to us changes our disposition. 648 00:36:11,661 --> 00:36:13,060 - You believe that ? - I think so. 649 00:36:13,288 --> 00:36:16,486 I read this study where they followed people who'd won the lottery... 650 00:36:16,793 --> 00:36:18,590 ... and people who'd become paraplegics. 651 00:36:18,836 --> 00:36:22,828 You'd think one extreme is gonna make you euphoric and the other suicidal. 652 00:36:23,173 --> 00:36:25,768 But the study shows that, after about six months... 653 00:36:26,052 --> 00:36:29,203 ... as soon as people had gotten used to their new situation... 654 00:36:29,514 --> 00:36:31,742 ... they were, more or less, the same. - The same ? 655 00:36:32,014 --> 00:36:35,086 Yeah. Like, if they were basically an optimistic, jovial person... 656 00:36:35,392 --> 00:36:38,112 ... they're now an optimistic, jovial person in a wheelchair. 657 00:36:38,438 --> 00:36:40,315 If they're a petty, miserable asshole... 658 00:36:40,565 --> 00:36:44,352 ... they're a petty, miserable asshole with a new Cadillac, a house and a boat. 659 00:36:44,693 --> 00:36:47,891 So I'll be forever depressed no matter what great things happen ? 660 00:36:48,198 --> 00:36:49,517 - Definitely. - Great. 661 00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:51,379 No, come on, are you depressed now ? 662 00:36:51,618 --> 00:36:53,813 No, no, I'm not depressed. 663 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,639 But sometimes I worry I'll get to the end of my life... 664 00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:00,306 ... feeling I haven't done all I wanted to. - Well, what do you want to do ? 665 00:37:00,628 --> 00:37:02,266 I... 666 00:37:02,505 --> 00:37:05,416 I want to paint more, I want to play my guitar every day. 667 00:37:05,715 --> 00:37:08,787 I want to learn Chinese. I want to write more songs. 668 00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:13,247 There's so many things I want to do, and I end up doing not much. 669 00:37:14,350 --> 00:37:19,945 All right, well, let me ask you this: Do you believe in ghosts or spirits ? 670 00:37:20,354 --> 00:37:21,674 No. 671 00:37:21,898 --> 00:37:23,172 - No ? - No. 672 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,994 - Okay, what about reincarnation ? - Not at all. 673 00:37:27,319 --> 00:37:29,196 - God ? - No. 674 00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:31,836 - All right. - That sounds terrible. No, no, no. 675 00:37:32,116 --> 00:37:35,871 But I don't want to be one of those people that don't believe in any magic. 676 00:37:36,204 --> 00:37:38,035 - So then, astrology ? - Yes, of course ! 677 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,042 - There we go. - That makes sense, right ? 678 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:43,568 You're a Scorpio, I'm a Sag, we get along. 679 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,382 No, no, no. 680 00:37:46,632 --> 00:37:49,543 There's an Einstein quote I really, really like. 681 00:37:49,843 --> 00:37:53,199 He said, "If you don't believe in any kind of magic or mystery 682 00:37:53,513 --> 00:37:56,233 you're basically as good as dead. " - Yeah, I like that. 683 00:37:56,517 --> 00:37:59,714 I've always felt there was some kind of mystical core to the universe. 684 00:38:00,021 --> 00:38:05,013 But, more recently, I've started to think that, me, my personality, whatever... 685 00:38:05,399 --> 00:38:08,358 That I don't have any permanent place here, you know. 686 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:10,245 In eternity or whatever, you know. 687 00:38:10,489 --> 00:38:14,163 And the more I think that, I can't go through life saying this is no big deal. 688 00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:17,849 This is it. This is actually happening. What do you think is interesting ? 689 00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:20,233 What do you think is funny ? What is important ? 690 00:38:20,540 --> 00:38:22,735 You know, every day's our last. 691 00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:26,566 When I feel that way, I usually call my mom to tell her I love her. 692 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,439 - Yeah ? - And she's always: 693 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:32,633 "Are you okay ? Do you have cancer ? Are you gonna commit suicide ?" 694 00:38:32,970 --> 00:38:35,483 It's almost not worth it. 695 00:38:36,807 --> 00:38:39,480 So, what about us ? 696 00:38:39,769 --> 00:38:42,203 - What about us ? - No, what I mean is... 697 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,914 ... if we were both going to die tonight... - Like the apocalypse was coming ? 698 00:38:46,232 --> 00:38:50,191 No, that's too dramatic... But what if just the two of us were going to die ? 699 00:38:50,528 --> 00:38:52,406 I mean, would we talk about your book ? 700 00:38:52,656 --> 00:38:55,295 - The environment ? Or... - If today was our last day ? 701 00:38:55,575 --> 00:38:58,088 Yeah, what would we talk about ? What would you tell me ? 702 00:38:58,369 --> 00:38:59,848 - Well... - That's hard, huh ? 703 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,353 - No, no, I'll do it. - Okay. 704 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:03,936 I definitely would stop talking about my book. 705 00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:06,769 - I would probably drop the environment. - Okay. 706 00:39:07,045 --> 00:39:10,833 But I would still want to talk about, you know, the magic in the universe. 707 00:39:11,174 --> 00:39:14,247 - I'd just want to do it from a... - What ? 708 00:39:14,554 --> 00:39:16,112 ... a hotel room, you know... 709 00:39:16,347 --> 00:39:19,975 ... in between sessions of us wildly fucking until we die. 710 00:39:20,308 --> 00:39:23,027 Wow. Well, why waste time with an hotel room ? 711 00:39:23,311 --> 00:39:26,588 Why not do it right there on a bench ? 712 00:39:27,483 --> 00:39:29,758 Come here, come here, come here. 713 00:39:30,025 --> 00:39:32,334 Okay. We're not gonna die tonight. 714 00:39:32,611 --> 00:39:34,567 All right. Too bad. I'm sorry. 715 00:39:34,822 --> 00:39:36,302 That was an extreme example. 716 00:39:36,533 --> 00:39:38,888 - I'm sorry. - Okay. 717 00:39:39,161 --> 00:39:40,753 What I... My point was, you know... 718 00:39:40,996 --> 00:39:43,714 ... to truly communicate with people is very hard to do. 719 00:39:43,998 --> 00:39:46,671 No, I know, most of our day-to-day exchanges... 720 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,439 Yeah, no, I mean... 721 00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:51,184 ... not to bring everything back to sex... - But why not ? 722 00:39:51,465 --> 00:39:54,457 No, this example, this friend of mine, she was talking about... 723 00:39:54,759 --> 00:39:57,671 - She and her boyfriend... Problems in bed. - Right. 724 00:39:58,014 --> 00:40:01,370 And how when they had been dating for a year she started telling him... 725 00:40:01,684 --> 00:40:04,561 ... what he could do to please her more, and it freaked him out. 726 00:40:04,853 --> 00:40:06,127 - Why ? - Totally. 727 00:40:06,396 --> 00:40:08,307 He thought it meant he was a bad lover... 728 00:40:08,565 --> 00:40:10,363 Maybe she shouldn't have waited so long. 729 00:40:10,610 --> 00:40:12,885 - After a year... - But men are so easily offended. 730 00:40:13,154 --> 00:40:15,541 - What, more than women ? - Definitely on that subject. 731 00:40:15,821 --> 00:40:17,140 - You think so ? - Yeah, yeah. 732 00:40:17,948 --> 00:40:19,984 Well, maybe it's because, you know... 733 00:40:20,242 --> 00:40:24,122 ... men are easier to... To please. - To please ? 734 00:40:24,498 --> 00:40:27,375 - Well, I don't know. - Yeah, they are. They're definitely. 735 00:40:27,708 --> 00:40:29,744 Anyway, this friend, she was telling me... 736 00:40:30,002 --> 00:40:33,518 ... next time she dates a man, she's gonna make a little questionnaire... 737 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,150 ... about what they like and dislike... - What, written down, or out loud ? 738 00:40:37,469 --> 00:40:39,141 Yeah, mostly written down. 739 00:40:39,387 --> 00:40:42,903 But it wouldn't be just yes or no. It would be a bit more complex than that. 740 00:40:43,226 --> 00:40:46,582 Like, for example, if the question is: "Are you into S & M ?" 741 00:40:46,896 --> 00:40:51,525 The answer could be: "No, but a good spanking once in a while doesn't hurt. " 742 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,450 Right, or like: "Do you like talking dirty in bed ?" 743 00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:59,090 - That kind of thing ? - Yeah, but not just like any dirty talk. 744 00:40:59,408 --> 00:41:01,681 Just "What specific word would you like to hear ?" 745 00:41:01,951 --> 00:41:03,225 - What, me ? - Well, yeah. 746 00:41:03,452 --> 00:41:06,013 For example what specific word would you like to hear ? 747 00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:07,847 I don't know. 748 00:41:09,417 --> 00:41:11,850 What do you feel about the word "pussy" ? 749 00:41:12,128 --> 00:41:14,801 I love it. 750 00:41:15,297 --> 00:41:16,890 Good. 751 00:41:17,134 --> 00:41:20,012 It's amazing what perverts we've become in the past nine years. 752 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:23,454 At least now we don't have to pretend each new sexual experience... 753 00:41:23,765 --> 00:41:25,403 ... is, like, a life-altering event. 754 00:41:25,642 --> 00:41:28,999 I know. By now, you've stuck it in so many places it's about to fall off. 755 00:41:29,313 --> 00:41:32,862 And I can't realistically expect you've become anything but a total ho. 756 00:41:33,191 --> 00:41:36,467 - Yeah, thank you. - No, I'm s... 757 00:41:37,195 --> 00:41:40,074 - That's true. What can you do ? - What can you do ? 758 00:41:40,366 --> 00:41:43,995 So, what kind of songs do you write ? I didn't know you did that. 759 00:41:44,326 --> 00:41:45,475 - What kind ? - Yeah, sure. 760 00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:47,295 - I don't know, just songs. - Like ? 761 00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,099 Like, some are about, you know, people. 762 00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:51,967 Relationships. One's about my cat. 763 00:41:52,210 --> 00:41:54,599 - Sing one. - No, I can't. I don't have a guitar. 764 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,392 - Come on. A cappella. - No, no, no. 765 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:59,667 I'm not singing a song without a guitar. You're nuts. 766 00:42:00,301 --> 00:42:02,133 Why not ? 767 00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:04,742 - No, okay. Not now. No. - One. 768 00:42:05,015 --> 00:42:08,132 If not now, when ? You want to meet here in six months with a guitar ? 769 00:42:08,435 --> 00:42:09,868 I'll fly all the way over here. 770 00:42:10,103 --> 00:42:12,982 - You may or may not make the Métro. - Okay, that's funny. 771 00:42:13,483 --> 00:42:15,474 - We've got to get back. - We'll be all right. 772 00:42:15,735 --> 00:42:17,646 - You're gonna miss your flight. - All right. 773 00:42:17,903 --> 00:42:19,655 We can walk down La Seine. It's nice. 774 00:42:19,905 --> 00:42:21,418 Okay. 775 00:42:22,073 --> 00:42:25,623 - So you're flying back to New York ? - Yeah, yeah. 776 00:42:27,663 --> 00:42:31,449 So I read in that article that you're married with a kid. That's great. 777 00:42:31,791 --> 00:42:34,180 Yeah, he's... He's 4. 778 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:36,577 - What's his name ? - Henry. Little Hank. 779 00:42:36,838 --> 00:42:39,511 - He's so much fun. - Oh, wow, I'm sure. 780 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,632 - Your wife, what does she do ? - She teaches elementary school. 781 00:42:43,302 --> 00:42:45,770 - Do you have kids ? - Yes, two... Shit ! 782 00:42:46,056 --> 00:42:47,455 - What ? - I left them in the car ! 783 00:42:47,682 --> 00:42:50,242 With the windows up, six months ago ! Think they're okay ? 784 00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,033 No, I'm kidding. No, but I want to have kids someday. 785 00:42:53,313 --> 00:42:55,110 - I'm just not ready yet. - No ? 786 00:42:55,357 --> 00:42:58,395 - I'm in a good relationship, though. - Oh yeah ? That's good. 787 00:42:58,694 --> 00:43:00,685 - What's he do ? - He's a photojournalist. 788 00:43:00,947 --> 00:43:02,698 He does war coverage. 789 00:43:02,948 --> 00:43:05,416 He's away a lot, which is good because I'm so busy. 790 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,614 But isn't that dangerous ? Aren't a lot of those guys getting killed these days ? 791 00:43:09,956 --> 00:43:13,073 He promises me he doesn't take risks, but I often worry. 792 00:43:13,376 --> 00:43:15,808 He goes in this trance when he photographs something. 793 00:43:16,085 --> 00:43:19,282 - What do you mean ? - Well, once we were in New Delhi... 794 00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:21,022 ... and we passed a bum on the... 795 00:43:21,258 --> 00:43:23,408 - A bomb ? - A bum. A homeless. 796 00:43:23,677 --> 00:43:24,951 All right, right. 797 00:43:25,177 --> 00:43:28,852 He looked like he needed help, but his first reaction was to photograph him. 798 00:43:29,181 --> 00:43:31,901 He went really close to his face, fixing his collar... 799 00:43:32,185 --> 00:43:33,857 ... totally detached from the person. 800 00:43:34,104 --> 00:43:36,743 But don't you have to be like that to be good at that job ? 801 00:43:37,023 --> 00:43:38,297 Yeah, I mean, I'm not... 802 00:43:38,525 --> 00:43:41,517 I'm not judging him. What he does is essential and incredible. 803 00:43:41,821 --> 00:43:43,857 All I'm saying is that I could never do it. 804 00:43:44,115 --> 00:43:45,787 Let's get on that boat. Come on. 805 00:43:46,033 --> 00:43:47,307 - No ! - Come on, it'll be fun. 806 00:43:47,534 --> 00:43:49,764 - You don't have time ! - They're about to take off. 807 00:43:50,036 --> 00:43:52,345 I've got 5 more minutes. Do you have a cell phone ? 808 00:43:52,622 --> 00:43:54,853 - Yeah. - All right, I've got that driver's number. 809 00:43:55,126 --> 00:43:57,196 I can call him to pick us up at the next stop. 810 00:43:57,462 --> 00:44:01,169 I've never been on those boats. It's for tourists, it's embarrassing. 811 00:44:01,505 --> 00:44:02,779 Okay. All right. 812 00:44:06,261 --> 00:44:07,819 No, I'll get it, I'll get it. 813 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,147 All right. All right, all right. 814 00:44:14,769 --> 00:44:16,044 Thank you. 815 00:44:16,271 --> 00:44:18,341 - So are you in love with that guy ? - What guy ? 816 00:44:18,607 --> 00:44:21,804 - The war photographer. - Yes, of course. 817 00:44:25,739 --> 00:44:27,856 So do you have that cell phone ? 818 00:44:28,117 --> 00:44:29,789 Oh, yeah. 819 00:44:30,036 --> 00:44:31,788 - Okay, let's see... - Okay. 820 00:44:32,038 --> 00:44:33,311 What do I tell him ? 821 00:44:33,538 --> 00:44:35,654 Tell him to pick you up at Quai Henri Quatre. 822 00:44:35,916 --> 00:44:38,590 Oh, shit. Quai... ? 823 00:44:38,878 --> 00:44:41,551 Henri Quatre. Quai Henri Quatre. 824 00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:43,793 Henri Quatre. 825 00:44:44,048 --> 00:44:46,926 What's wrong with you ? No, do you want me to... ? Henri Quatre. 826 00:44:47,218 --> 00:44:48,537 - Henry Four ? - Yes ! 827 00:44:48,761 --> 00:44:51,640 - Come on, why didn't you say so ? - I'm sorry. Okay. 828 00:45:03,902 --> 00:45:05,733 Yeah, is this Philippe ? 829 00:45:05,987 --> 00:45:08,547 Yeah. Philippe, this is Jesse Wallace. 830 00:45:08,824 --> 00:45:10,143 Yeah. 831 00:45:10,367 --> 00:45:14,441 Well, listen, I'm on one of those boats, right ? 832 00:45:14,789 --> 00:45:17,586 And we're gonna arrive at Henry Four. 833 00:45:17,874 --> 00:45:21,105 At Port Henry Four. You know what that is ? 834 00:45:21,419 --> 00:45:23,809 All right, great. And you have my bags, right ? 835 00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:26,923 Yeah, so we'll be there in... I don't know, it's the next stop. 836 00:45:27,218 --> 00:45:29,491 Okay. Au revoir. 837 00:45:30,678 --> 00:45:33,033 - It's okay ? - Yeah, yeah. 838 00:45:33,305 --> 00:45:35,183 Oh, wow. 839 00:45:35,434 --> 00:45:38,028 - Notre Dame, man. Check that out. - Oh, wow. 840 00:45:38,311 --> 00:45:42,144 I heard this story once about when the Germans were occupying Paris... 841 00:45:42,481 --> 00:45:44,039 ... and they had to retreat back. 842 00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,153 They wired Notre Dame to blow... 843 00:45:46,403 --> 00:45:50,476 ... but they had to leave one guy in charge of hitting the switch. 844 00:45:50,824 --> 00:45:53,782 And the guy, the soldier, he couldn't do it. 845 00:45:54,077 --> 00:45:57,627 He just sat there, knocked out by how beautiful the place was. 846 00:45:57,957 --> 00:45:59,754 Then, when the Allied troops came in... 847 00:46:00,001 --> 00:46:03,356 ... they found all the explosives lying there and the switch unturned... 848 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:07,185 ... and they found the same thing at the Sacré-Coeur, Eiffel Tower... 849 00:46:07,508 --> 00:46:09,703 ... couple other places, I think. 850 00:46:09,969 --> 00:46:11,846 Is that true ? 851 00:46:12,096 --> 00:46:15,052 I don't know. I always liked the story, though. 852 00:46:15,347 --> 00:46:16,666 Yeah, that's a great story. 853 00:46:16,932 --> 00:46:19,686 But you have to think that Notre Dame will be gone one day. 854 00:46:19,978 --> 00:46:23,015 There used to be another church at the Seine, right there. 855 00:46:23,315 --> 00:46:26,033 - What, right in the same spot ? - Yeah. 856 00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:29,966 You know, this is great. I've never done this. 857 00:46:30,238 --> 00:46:32,752 - Yeah. - I forget about how beautiful Paris is. 858 00:46:33,033 --> 00:46:34,591 It's not so bad, being a tourist. 859 00:46:34,826 --> 00:46:37,215 - Thanks for getting me on the boat. - You're welcome. 860 00:46:37,496 --> 00:46:40,294 I think that book that I wrote was like building something... 861 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:44,910 ... so that I wouldn't forget the details of the time that we spent together. 862 00:46:45,296 --> 00:46:48,890 You know, like, just as a reminder, that once, we really did meet. 863 00:46:49,216 --> 00:46:52,049 You know, that this was real, this happened. 864 00:46:52,345 --> 00:46:54,256 I'm happy you're saying that, because... 865 00:46:54,514 --> 00:46:58,630 I mean, I always feel like a freak because I'm never able to move on like this: 866 00:46:59,934 --> 00:47:03,085 People just have an affair, or even entire relationships... 867 00:47:03,438 --> 00:47:05,713 ... they break up and they forget. 868 00:47:05,982 --> 00:47:09,690 They move on like they would have changed brand of cereals. 869 00:47:10,486 --> 00:47:13,603 I feel I was never able to forget anyone I've been with... 870 00:47:13,906 --> 00:47:19,265 ... because each person had their own specific qualities. 871 00:47:19,663 --> 00:47:24,293 You can never replace anyone. What is lost is lost. 872 00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:29,663 Each relationship, when it ends, really damages me. I never fully recover. 873 00:47:30,007 --> 00:47:33,043 That's why I'm very careful with getting involved... 874 00:47:33,343 --> 00:47:35,299 ... because it hurts too much. 875 00:47:35,554 --> 00:47:38,592 Even getting laid, I actually don't do that... 876 00:47:38,891 --> 00:47:41,689 ... because I will miss of the person the most mundane things. 877 00:47:41,978 --> 00:47:44,570 Like I'm obsessed with little things. 878 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:47,250 Maybe I'm crazy, but when I was a little girl... 879 00:47:47,523 --> 00:47:50,322 ... my mom told me that I was always late to school. 880 00:47:50,610 --> 00:47:52,885 One day she followed me to see why. 881 00:47:53,196 --> 00:47:57,313 I was looking at chestnuts falling from the trees, rolling on the sidewalk... 882 00:47:57,658 --> 00:48:03,177 ... or ants crossing the road, the way a leaf casts a shadow on a tree trunk. 883 00:48:03,582 --> 00:48:05,538 Little things. 884 00:48:06,126 --> 00:48:07,878 I think it's the same with people. 885 00:48:08,462 --> 00:48:11,261 I see in them little details, so specific to each of them... 886 00:48:11,549 --> 00:48:15,508 ... that move me and that I miss and will always miss. 887 00:48:15,845 --> 00:48:17,277 You can never replace anyone... 888 00:48:17,512 --> 00:48:21,300 ... because everyone is made of such beautiful, specific details. 889 00:48:24,937 --> 00:48:28,086 Like, I remember the way your beard has a bit of red in it... 890 00:48:28,981 --> 00:48:31,541 ... and how the sun was making it glow... 891 00:48:31,859 --> 00:48:34,533 ... that morning right before you left. 892 00:48:35,572 --> 00:48:39,325 I remembered that, and I missed it. 893 00:48:39,658 --> 00:48:40,932 Really crazy, right ? 894 00:48:41,619 --> 00:48:45,374 Now I know for sure. You wanna know why I wrote that stupid book ? 895 00:48:45,749 --> 00:48:48,547 - Why ? - So you'd come to a reading in Paris... 896 00:48:48,877 --> 00:48:52,870 ... and I could walk up to you and ask, "Where the fuck were you ?" 897 00:48:53,465 --> 00:48:55,582 No... You think I'd be here today ? 898 00:48:55,843 --> 00:49:00,200 I'm serious. I think I wrote it, in a way, to try to find you. 899 00:49:00,598 --> 00:49:02,588 Okay, that's... I know that's not true... 900 00:49:02,849 --> 00:49:05,079 ... but that's sweet of you. - I think it is true. 901 00:49:05,393 --> 00:49:07,749 What were the chances of us ever meeting again ? 902 00:49:08,648 --> 00:49:11,720 After that December, I'd say almost zero. 903 00:49:12,274 --> 00:49:14,230 But we're not real anyway, right ? 904 00:49:14,485 --> 00:49:17,557 We're just characters in that old lady's dream. 905 00:49:17,864 --> 00:49:20,173 She's on her deathbed, fantasizing about her youth. 906 00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:22,441 So of course we had to meet again. 907 00:49:22,702 --> 00:49:26,455 Oh, God. Why weren't you there in Vienna ? 908 00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:31,386 - I told you why. - I know why, I just... 909 00:49:31,711 --> 00:49:33,861 I wish you would have been. 910 00:49:34,131 --> 00:49:36,281 Our lives might have been so much different. 911 00:49:36,550 --> 00:49:38,666 You think so ? 912 00:49:38,927 --> 00:49:40,486 I actually do. 913 00:49:40,763 --> 00:49:43,755 Maybe not. Maybe we would have hated each other eventually. 914 00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:46,852 What, like we hate each other now ? 915 00:49:47,894 --> 00:49:52,207 You know, maybe we're... We're only good at brief encounters... 916 00:49:52,567 --> 00:49:56,606 ... walking around in European cities, in warm climate. 917 00:49:57,278 --> 00:50:00,270 Oh, God. Why didn't we exchange phone numbers and stuff ? 918 00:50:00,573 --> 00:50:02,644 Why didn't we do that ? 919 00:50:02,909 --> 00:50:05,184 Because we were young and stupid. 920 00:50:05,454 --> 00:50:07,649 Do you think we still are ? 921 00:50:07,914 --> 00:50:09,949 I guess when you're young you just believe... 922 00:50:10,207 --> 00:50:12,641 ... there'll be many people you'll connect with. 923 00:50:13,419 --> 00:50:15,934 Later in life you realize it only happens a few times. 924 00:50:16,214 --> 00:50:19,684 And you can screw it up, you know. Misconnect. 925 00:50:20,051 --> 00:50:22,360 The past is the past. It was meant to be that way. 926 00:50:22,637 --> 00:50:25,198 You really believe that ? That everything's fated ? 927 00:50:25,475 --> 00:50:29,309 Well, you know, the world might be less free than we think. 928 00:50:29,645 --> 00:50:31,282 Yeah ? 929 00:50:31,605 --> 00:50:35,359 When given these exact circumstances, that's what will happen every time. 930 00:50:35,692 --> 00:50:38,605 Two part hydrogen, one part oxygen, you'll get water every time. 931 00:50:38,905 --> 00:50:42,179 No, I mean, what if your grandmother had lived a week longer, you know ? 932 00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:45,004 Or passed away a week earlier ? Days, even ? 933 00:50:45,284 --> 00:50:46,797 Things might have been different. 934 00:50:47,036 --> 00:50:51,076 - You can't think like that, it's... - You shouldn't on most things, but... 935 00:50:51,416 --> 00:50:56,409 It's just, on this one, it seemed like something was off, you know. 936 00:50:57,129 --> 00:51:00,725 In the months leading up to my wedding, I was thinking about you all the time. 937 00:51:01,051 --> 00:51:04,726 Even on my way there, I'm in the car, a buddy of mine is driving me downtown... 938 00:51:05,055 --> 00:51:07,694 ... and I'm staring out the window and I think I see you... 939 00:51:07,974 --> 00:51:10,045 ... not far from the church, right... 940 00:51:10,311 --> 00:51:12,700 ... folding up an umbrella and walking into a deli... 941 00:51:12,980 --> 00:51:16,449 ... on the corner of 13th and Broadway. 942 00:51:16,775 --> 00:51:20,165 And I thought I was going crazy. But now I think it probably was you. 943 00:51:21,114 --> 00:51:23,628 I lived on 11th and Broadway. 944 00:51:24,534 --> 00:51:26,329 You see ? 945 00:51:27,701 --> 00:51:31,296 So, what is it like to be married? You haven't talked much about that. 946 00:51:32,374 --> 00:51:35,764 I haven't? How weird. 947 00:51:36,419 --> 00:51:40,206 I don't know. We met, you know, when I was in college. 948 00:51:40,548 --> 00:51:46,658 And we broke up and got back together for a period of years, and then... 949 00:51:47,556 --> 00:51:51,595 What ? We were sort of back together and she was pregnant... 950 00:51:52,436 --> 00:51:53,949 ... so marriage. 951 00:51:54,187 --> 00:51:56,144 What is she like ? 952 00:51:56,399 --> 00:51:59,311 She's a great teacher, a good mom. 953 00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:02,521 She's smart, pretty, you know. 954 00:52:02,821 --> 00:52:04,812 I remember thinking at the time... 955 00:52:05,073 --> 00:52:07,349 ... that so many of the men that I admired most... 956 00:52:07,618 --> 00:52:12,246 ... that their lives were dedicated to something greater than themselves. 957 00:52:13,205 --> 00:52:15,799 So you got married because men you admired were married ? 958 00:52:16,083 --> 00:52:22,080 No, no. It's more like I had this... This idea of my best self, you know ? 959 00:52:22,506 --> 00:52:24,178 And I wanted to pursue that... 960 00:52:24,425 --> 00:52:27,064 ... even if it might have been overriding my honest self. 961 00:52:27,344 --> 00:52:28,698 You know what I'm saying ? 962 00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:33,287 In the moment, I remember thinking it didn't much matter, the who of it all. 963 00:52:33,685 --> 00:52:36,074 I mean, that nobody is gonna be everything to you... 964 00:52:36,354 --> 00:52:39,108 ... and that it's just the action of committing yourself... 965 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,756 ... you know, meeting your responsibilities, that matters. 966 00:52:43,070 --> 00:52:46,539 I mean, what is love, right, if it's not respect, trust, admiration ? 967 00:52:46,865 --> 00:52:49,823 And I... I felt all those things. 968 00:52:50,118 --> 00:52:52,872 Cut to the present, and I feel like I'm running a nursery... 969 00:52:53,164 --> 00:52:55,724 ... with somebody I used to date, you know. 970 00:52:55,998 --> 00:52:57,750 I mean, I'm like a monk, you know. 971 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,677 I mean, I've had sex less than 0 times in the last four years. 972 00:53:03,381 --> 00:53:05,849 - What, what ? You laughing at me ? - No. 973 00:53:06,134 --> 00:53:08,852 - It sounds pathetic ? - What monastery do monks have sex... ? 974 00:53:09,136 --> 00:53:12,333 Okay, you're right, I'm doing better than most monks. 975 00:53:12,641 --> 00:53:15,030 But I do, I feel like if somebody were to touch me... 976 00:53:15,310 --> 00:53:17,426 ... I would dissolve into molecules. 977 00:53:17,687 --> 00:53:20,326 Well, we're here. We've gotta go. Come on. 978 00:53:20,607 --> 00:53:22,404 Shit. 979 00:53:34,996 --> 00:53:37,830 - I'm sorry to hear that, you know. - What ? 980 00:53:38,126 --> 00:53:41,082 You're not that happy with your marriage. 981 00:53:41,377 --> 00:53:43,937 - This friend of mine, she's a shrink... - How's she doing ? 982 00:53:44,213 --> 00:53:45,726 She's a mess, but... 983 00:53:45,965 --> 00:53:49,083 No, she said she's been dealing with couples that are breaking up... 984 00:53:49,386 --> 00:53:51,456 ... for the same reason. - What reason is that ? 985 00:53:51,721 --> 00:53:54,359 They all expected, after a few years of living together... 986 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,870 ... for the passion, that desire, to be the same. 987 00:53:57,143 --> 00:53:58,543 - Yeah, right. - It's impossible. 988 00:53:58,770 --> 00:54:00,044 And thank God... 989 00:54:00,272 --> 00:54:03,867 ... we'd end up with aneurysms in that constant state of excitement, right ? 990 00:54:04,192 --> 00:54:05,910 We'd do nothing at all with our lives. 991 00:54:06,153 --> 00:54:09,510 Would you have finished your book if you were fucking every five minutes ? 992 00:54:09,824 --> 00:54:12,292 I might have welcomed the challenge, I mean... 993 00:54:12,618 --> 00:54:15,256 It's natural for your wife after the birth of your son... 994 00:54:15,537 --> 00:54:18,051 ... to give all her love to the little one. - Of course. 995 00:54:18,331 --> 00:54:21,369 If she was obsessed with sex, riding you like a wildcat... 996 00:54:21,669 --> 00:54:23,341 That wouldn't make any sense, right ? 997 00:54:23,588 --> 00:54:27,022 Everything you're saying makes sense. It's not about sex. 998 00:54:27,339 --> 00:54:29,455 No, I know. It's obvious. 999 00:54:29,717 --> 00:54:31,231 I... 1000 00:54:32,429 --> 00:54:35,501 You know, couples are so confused lately. 1001 00:54:35,807 --> 00:54:38,001 I think it must be that... 1002 00:54:38,267 --> 00:54:42,055 ... men need to feel essential and they don't anymore. 1003 00:54:42,397 --> 00:54:44,831 It's been imprinted in their head for so many years... 1004 00:54:45,108 --> 00:54:46,746 ... that they had to be the provider. 1005 00:54:46,985 --> 00:54:50,500 Like, I'm a strong, independent woman in my professional life. 1006 00:54:50,822 --> 00:54:52,301 I don't need a man to feed me... 1007 00:54:52,532 --> 00:54:55,730 ... but I still need a man to love me and that I could love. 1008 00:54:57,246 --> 00:54:59,805 - So your driver's here. - Yeah. 1009 00:55:00,123 --> 00:55:01,715 Well, I guess this is goodbye. 1010 00:55:01,958 --> 00:55:03,550 - You better give me your... - No, no. 1011 00:55:03,794 --> 00:55:05,911 Why don't we just give you a ride home ? 1012 00:55:06,172 --> 00:55:08,402 - Well, I can take the Métro. I'm fine. - No, I... 1013 00:55:08,674 --> 00:55:11,505 My flight's not until 0. I'll be arriving two hours early. 1014 00:55:11,801 --> 00:55:13,154 This way we can keep talking. 1015 00:55:13,385 --> 00:55:15,421 - Monsieur, can... ? - It's not on the way. 1016 00:55:30,278 --> 00:55:32,109 You told him where you are and all that ? 1017 00:55:32,364 --> 00:55:33,922 Yeah. 1018 00:55:37,327 --> 00:55:39,683 - He knows where he's going ? - Yes. 1019 00:55:39,956 --> 00:55:41,753 Glad somebody does. 1020 00:55:41,999 --> 00:55:45,957 - But this is better than the Métro, right ? - Definitely. 1021 00:55:48,547 --> 00:55:52,780 I was thinking, for me it's better I don't romanticize things as much anymore. 1022 00:55:53,136 --> 00:55:54,931 I was suffering so much all the time. 1023 00:55:55,177 --> 00:55:58,533 I still have lots of dreams, but they're not in regard to my love life. 1024 00:55:58,889 --> 00:56:01,165 It doesn't make me sad, it's just the way it is. 1025 00:56:01,476 --> 00:56:05,435 Is that why you're in a relationship with somebody who's never around ? 1026 00:56:05,772 --> 00:56:09,525 Yes, obviously I can't deal with the day-to-day life of a relationship. 1027 00:56:09,859 --> 00:56:11,851 Yeah, we have this exciting time together... 1028 00:56:12,112 --> 00:56:15,343 ... and he leaves and I miss him, but at least I'm not dying inside. 1029 00:56:15,657 --> 00:56:17,966 When someone's always around me, I'm suffocating. 1030 00:56:18,285 --> 00:56:21,038 No, wait, you just said that you need to love and be loved. 1031 00:56:21,371 --> 00:56:24,091 Yeah, but when I do, it quickly makes me nauseous. 1032 00:56:24,375 --> 00:56:25,774 It's a disaster. 1033 00:56:26,002 --> 00:56:28,561 I mean, I'm really happy only when I'm on my own. 1034 00:56:28,837 --> 00:56:33,513 Even being alone, it's better than sitting next to a lover and feeling lonely. 1035 00:56:34,385 --> 00:56:36,216 It's not so easy for me to be a romantic. 1036 00:56:36,471 --> 00:56:39,825 You start off that way, and after you've been screwed over a few times... 1037 00:56:40,139 --> 00:56:44,291 ... you forget about your delusional ideas and you take what comes into your life. 1038 00:56:45,144 --> 00:56:47,534 That's not even true. I haven't been screwed over... 1039 00:56:47,814 --> 00:56:50,123 ... I've just had too many blah relationships. 1040 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,151 They weren't mean, they cared for me... 1041 00:56:52,401 --> 00:56:55,757 ... but there were no real connection or excitement. 1042 00:56:56,071 --> 00:56:58,142 At least, not from my side. 1043 00:56:58,408 --> 00:57:00,968 God, I'm sorry, is it really that bad ? 1044 00:57:01,244 --> 00:57:03,200 It's not, right ? 1045 00:57:04,539 --> 00:57:07,178 You know, it's not even that. I was... 1046 00:57:07,459 --> 00:57:10,497 I was fine until I read your fucking book. 1047 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:12,722 It stirred shit up, you know ? 1048 00:57:13,174 --> 00:57:15,687 It reminded me how genuinely romantic I was... 1049 00:57:15,967 --> 00:57:18,037 ... how I had so much hope in things... 1050 00:57:18,303 --> 00:57:21,694 ... and now it's like I don't believe in anything that relates to love. 1051 00:57:22,016 --> 00:57:23,927 I don't feel things for people anymore. 1052 00:57:25,142 --> 00:57:28,657 In a way, I put all my romanticism into that one night... 1053 00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:31,369 ... and I was never able to feel all this again. 1054 00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:34,084 Like, somehow this night took things away from me... 1055 00:57:34,361 --> 00:57:36,669 ... and I expressed them to you, and you took them with you. 1056 00:57:36,946 --> 00:57:38,743 It made me feel cold, like love wasn't for me. 1057 00:57:38,989 --> 00:57:41,629 I don't believe that. I don't believe that. 1058 00:57:42,994 --> 00:57:47,067 You know what ? Reality and love are almost contradictory for me. 1059 00:57:47,415 --> 00:57:51,533 It's funny, every single of my exes, they're now married. 1060 00:57:51,878 --> 00:57:54,677 Men go out with me, we break up, and then they get married. 1061 00:57:54,966 --> 00:57:58,321 And later they call me to thank me for teaching them what love is... 1062 00:57:58,635 --> 00:58:01,024 ... and that I taught them to care and respect women. 1063 00:58:01,304 --> 00:58:03,579 - I think I'm one of those. - I want to kill them ! 1064 00:58:03,891 --> 00:58:07,361 Why didn't they ask me ? I would have said no, but they could have asked ! 1065 00:58:07,687 --> 00:58:11,314 I know it's my fault because I never felt it was the right man. 1066 00:58:11,689 --> 00:58:14,761 Never. But what does it mean, the right man, the love of your life ? 1067 00:58:15,068 --> 00:58:18,265 The concept is absurd. We can only be complete with another person. 1068 00:58:18,613 --> 00:58:20,887 - It's evil, right ? - Can I talk ? 1069 00:58:21,157 --> 00:58:24,433 I guess I've been heartbroken too many times and then I recovered. 1070 00:58:24,743 --> 00:58:27,258 So now, you know, from the starts, I make no effort. 1071 00:58:27,539 --> 00:58:30,212 - I know it's not gonna work out. - You can't do that. 1072 00:58:30,542 --> 00:58:32,339 You can't live trying to avoid pain... 1073 00:58:32,627 --> 00:58:34,345 ... at the expense... - Those are words. 1074 00:58:34,588 --> 00:58:35,987 I've gotta get away from you. 1075 00:58:36,256 --> 00:58:38,293 - Stop the car, I wanna get out. - No, don't... 1076 00:58:38,593 --> 00:58:40,390 - Keep talking. - It's being around you. 1077 00:58:40,636 --> 00:58:42,910 Don't touch me, you know. I want to get on a cab. 1078 00:58:45,724 --> 00:58:48,033 No, don't. No, no, keep going. 1079 00:58:48,310 --> 00:58:51,747 Listen, I'm just so happy... Thank you, just keep going. 1080 00:58:52,064 --> 00:58:53,702 All right. 1081 00:58:55,107 --> 00:58:58,702 Look, I'm just so happy, all right, to be with you. 1082 00:58:59,028 --> 00:59:02,260 I am. I'm so glad you didn't forget about me, okay ? 1083 00:59:02,574 --> 00:59:05,168 No, I didn't. And it pisses me off, okay ? 1084 00:59:05,493 --> 00:59:09,008 You come here to Paris, all romantic, and married. 1085 00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:10,729 Okay ? Screw you. 1086 00:59:11,625 --> 00:59:13,900 Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get you. 1087 00:59:14,169 --> 00:59:16,524 I mean, all I need is a married man. 1088 00:59:17,255 --> 00:59:20,452 There's been so much water under the bridge, it's not even about you. 1089 00:59:20,759 --> 00:59:23,115 It's about that moment in time that's forever gone. 1090 00:59:23,429 --> 00:59:26,227 You say that, but you didn't even remember having sex, so... 1091 00:59:26,516 --> 00:59:29,268 Of course I remembered. 1092 00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:32,828 - You did ? - Yes. 1093 00:59:33,105 --> 00:59:36,337 - Women pretend things like that. - They do ? 1094 00:59:36,692 --> 00:59:40,478 What was I supposed to say ? That I remember the wine in the park... 1095 00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:44,176 ... and us looking up at the stars fading away as the sun came up ? 1096 00:59:44,491 --> 00:59:47,722 We had sex twice, you idiot ! 1097 00:59:49,246 --> 00:59:52,874 All right, you know what, I'm just happy to see you. 1098 00:59:53,249 --> 00:59:56,526 Even if you've become an angry, manic-depressive activist... 1099 00:59:56,837 --> 01:00:00,193 ... I still like you, I still enjoy being around you. 1100 01:00:01,007 --> 01:00:05,205 And I feel the same. I'm sorry. I don't know what happened, I just... 1101 01:00:05,554 --> 01:00:07,910 - I had to let it all out. - Don't worry about it. 1102 01:00:08,182 --> 01:00:10,696 I'm so miserable in my love life, in my relationship. 1103 01:00:10,977 --> 01:00:14,013 I always act as... Like, you know, I'm detached. 1104 01:00:14,312 --> 01:00:17,349 But I'm dying inside. I'm dying because I'm so numb. 1105 01:00:17,649 --> 01:00:21,245 I don't feel pain or excitement, I'm not even bitter, I'm just... 1106 01:00:21,571 --> 01:00:24,129 You think you're the one dying inside ? 1107 01:00:24,405 --> 01:00:28,444 My life is 24/7 bad. 1108 01:00:28,784 --> 01:00:30,059 - I'm sorry. - No, no. 1109 01:00:30,287 --> 01:00:33,085 I mean, the only happiness I get is when I'm out with my son. 1110 01:00:33,373 --> 01:00:34,964 I've been to marriage counseling... 1111 01:00:35,207 --> 01:00:37,721 ... I've done things I never thought I would have to do. 1112 01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:40,836 I've lit candles, bought self-help books, lingerie. 1113 01:00:41,131 --> 01:00:43,406 - Did the candles help ? - Hell, no. 1114 01:00:43,675 --> 01:00:46,064 I don't love her the way she needs to be loved... 1115 01:00:46,344 --> 01:00:50,622 ... and I don't even see a future for us, but then I look at my little boy... 1116 01:00:50,974 --> 01:00:54,206 ... sitting across from me, and I think I'd suffer any torture... 1117 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,795 ... to be with him for all the minutes of his life. 1118 01:00:57,064 --> 01:00:58,860 I don't want to miss out on one. 1119 01:00:59,107 --> 01:01:03,260 But then, there's no joy or laughter in my home, you know ? 1120 01:01:03,613 --> 01:01:07,162 - I don't want him growing up in that. - No laughter ? That's terrible. 1121 01:01:07,492 --> 01:01:09,321 My parents have been together 35 years... 1122 01:01:09,575 --> 01:01:11,805 ... and even when they fight they end up laughing. 1123 01:01:12,077 --> 01:01:15,707 I don't want to be one of those people who are getting divorced at 52... 1124 01:01:16,041 --> 01:01:20,272 ... and falling down into tears, admitting they never really loved their spouse... 1125 01:01:20,628 --> 01:01:25,464 ... and they feel their life has been sucked up into a vacuum cleaner. 1126 01:01:25,884 --> 01:01:29,320 You know, I want a great life. I want her to have a great life... 1127 01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:31,749 ... she deserves that. 1128 01:01:32,057 --> 01:01:35,254 But we're just living in the pretense of a marriage, responsibility... 1129 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,395 ... you know, all these ideas of how people are supposed to live. 1130 01:01:41,275 --> 01:01:44,983 But then I... I have these dreams... 1131 01:01:46,655 --> 01:01:47,975 What dreams ? 1132 01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:51,555 I have these dreams, you know, that... 1133 01:01:52,161 --> 01:01:54,070 ... I'm standing on a platform... 1134 01:01:55,454 --> 01:01:58,446 ... and you keep going by on a train... 1135 01:01:58,750 --> 01:02:02,982 ... and you go by, and you go by, and you go by, you go by. 1136 01:02:03,338 --> 01:02:05,134 And I wake up with the fucking sweats. 1137 01:02:05,381 --> 01:02:07,576 And then I have this other dream... 1138 01:02:07,883 --> 01:02:11,559 ... where you're pregnant in bed beside me naked... 1139 01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:15,559 ... and I want so badly to touch you, but you tell me not to and you look away. 1140 01:02:15,892 --> 01:02:20,204 And I... And I touch you anyway... 1141 01:02:20,564 --> 01:02:24,843 ... right on your ankle, and your skin is so soft that I wake up in sobs, all right ? 1142 01:02:25,778 --> 01:02:29,087 My wife is there looking at me, and I feel I'm a million miles from her. 1143 01:02:29,406 --> 01:02:33,286 And I know that there's something wrong, that I... 1144 01:02:33,619 --> 01:02:35,530 God, that I can't keep living like this... 1145 01:02:35,788 --> 01:02:38,220 ... that there's gotta be more to love than commitment. 1146 01:02:38,539 --> 01:02:41,212 But then I think that I might have given up... 1147 01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:43,331 ... on the whole idea of romantic love. 1148 01:02:43,587 --> 01:02:46,738 That I might have put it to bed that... 1149 01:02:47,048 --> 01:02:49,686 That day when you weren't there. 1150 01:02:49,967 --> 01:02:52,606 You know, I think I might have done that. 1151 01:02:53,971 --> 01:02:56,088 Why are you telling me all this ? 1152 01:02:57,058 --> 01:03:01,097 I'm sorry. I don't know. I'm... I should... 1153 01:03:02,439 --> 01:03:04,316 I shouldn't have. 1154 01:03:04,566 --> 01:03:06,080 You know, it's so weird. 1155 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:10,198 People think they are the only one going through tough times. 1156 01:03:10,573 --> 01:03:14,690 I mean, when I read the article, I thought your life was perfect. 1157 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,915 A wife, a kid, published author. 1158 01:03:19,707 --> 01:03:22,936 But your personal life is more of a mess than mine. 1159 01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:25,480 I'm sorry. 1160 01:03:25,753 --> 01:03:28,746 Well, I'm glad it's good for something. 1161 01:03:31,593 --> 01:03:34,709 - This is where you live ? - Yeah. 1162 01:03:35,763 --> 01:03:39,757 So you're just relieved that I'm in even more deep shit than you are ? 1163 01:03:40,102 --> 01:03:41,899 Yes, you've made me feel better. 1164 01:03:42,145 --> 01:03:44,215 Oh, good, I'm glad. 1165 01:03:44,481 --> 01:03:46,836 No, I really wish you the best. 1166 01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:50,625 It's not because I'm incapable of having a good relationship or a family... 1167 01:03:50,947 --> 01:03:52,983 ... that I wish everyone to be doomed like me. 1168 01:03:53,241 --> 01:03:55,516 I'm sure you'd make... Be a great mom someday. 1169 01:03:55,785 --> 01:03:57,217 - Really ? You think so ? - Yeah... 1170 01:03:57,452 --> 01:04:00,444 ... a few antidepressants, you know, you'll do great. 1171 01:04:01,373 --> 01:04:04,093 - Okay, say stop. - Stop. 1172 01:04:04,669 --> 01:04:07,263 - Okay. - You ready ? Okay. 1173 01:04:17,514 --> 01:04:21,552 - So I want to try something. - What ? 1174 01:04:24,186 --> 01:04:28,339 I want to see if you stay together or if you dissolve into molecules. 1175 01:04:29,568 --> 01:04:31,445 How am I doing ? 1176 01:04:31,695 --> 01:04:33,526 Still here. 1177 01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:35,851 Good. I like being here. 1178 01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:41,341 Is this your apartment ? 1179 01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:43,218 No, I live down there. 1180 01:04:43,457 --> 01:04:45,607 - Down there ? - Yeah. 1181 01:04:45,876 --> 01:04:48,266 Monsieur, I'm gonna walk her to her door. 1182 01:04:57,428 --> 01:04:58,703 This is incredible. 1183 01:04:58,930 --> 01:05:01,524 - This is where you live ? - Yeah. 1184 01:05:01,808 --> 01:05:04,879 - How long have you been here ? - Four years. 1185 01:05:06,562 --> 01:05:08,632 - So tell me... - What ? 1186 01:05:08,898 --> 01:05:10,491 Is it all true about your dreams... 1187 01:05:10,734 --> 01:05:13,373 ... or did you say that to hopefully get in my pants ? 1188 01:05:13,653 --> 01:05:15,166 I said that to get in your pants. 1189 01:05:15,405 --> 01:05:17,794 - I use that all the time. - Oh, okay. Does it work ? 1190 01:05:18,116 --> 01:05:20,870 You know. Sometimes. 1191 01:05:22,163 --> 01:05:25,519 Here's my kitty. Oh, so cute. Look at him. 1192 01:05:25,832 --> 01:05:27,584 You know what I love about this cat ? 1193 01:05:27,834 --> 01:05:30,029 Every morning I bring him to the courtyard... 1194 01:05:30,337 --> 01:05:34,854 ... and every single morning he looks at everything like it was the first time. 1195 01:05:35,218 --> 01:05:39,129 Every corner, every tree, every plant. 1196 01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:41,825 Smells everything with his little cute nose. 1197 01:05:42,098 --> 01:05:46,012 Oh, I love my kitty. I love my kitty. 1198 01:05:47,437 --> 01:05:49,233 - What's his name ? - Che. 1199 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:51,777 Che ? 1200 01:05:53,526 --> 01:05:55,836 - What ? - Commie. 1201 01:05:57,405 --> 01:06:00,283 No, "che" in Argentina means "hey. " 1202 01:06:00,575 --> 01:06:02,884 - Okay. - Yes. 1203 01:06:03,161 --> 01:06:06,757 Oh, baby. Oh, yes, yes, yes. 1204 01:06:10,253 --> 01:06:13,927 We're having a little party. It's so much fun. 1205 01:06:24,265 --> 01:06:26,017 - So... - So. 1206 01:06:42,284 --> 01:06:46,562 You know what ? I was thinking, would you play me one of your songs ? 1207 01:06:46,913 --> 01:06:48,983 - You're gonna miss your flight. - I won't. 1208 01:06:49,249 --> 01:06:52,048 I'm gonna be in the airport for over an hour, reading... 1209 01:06:52,336 --> 01:06:55,134 ... wishing you'd played me one of your songs. 1210 01:06:55,464 --> 01:06:57,580 One song ? Okay, but quickly. 1211 01:06:57,841 --> 01:06:59,559 Okay. 1212 01:07:04,974 --> 01:07:08,044 God, I love these old staircases. 1213 01:07:46,474 --> 01:07:48,669 - Hold this. - What, for me ? 1214 01:07:48,935 --> 01:07:50,891 Hey there, buddy. 1215 01:07:52,061 --> 01:07:54,052 Che. 1216 01:08:05,616 --> 01:08:09,246 - Would you like some tea ? - Yeah, sure. 1217 01:08:09,913 --> 01:08:11,471 Wow. 1218 01:08:12,541 --> 01:08:15,897 - Is chamomile okay ? - Yeah. Great. 1219 01:08:16,211 --> 01:08:18,361 - Merci. - Messy ? 1220 01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:22,226 - You think my apartment is messy ? - No, no. Merci. 1221 01:08:22,552 --> 01:08:25,941 - Merci beaucoup. - Ah, merci. 1222 01:08:26,263 --> 01:08:29,858 I meant to tell you, your French has improved a lot. 1223 01:08:30,183 --> 01:08:31,458 - Really ? - Yeah. 1224 01:08:31,686 --> 01:08:34,154 Yeah, you've really mastered the language. 1225 01:08:35,064 --> 01:08:38,054 All right, all right, what song are you gonna play me ? 1226 01:08:40,401 --> 01:08:43,200 No, I can't. It's too embarrassing. It's been... 1227 01:08:43,488 --> 01:08:47,037 Whoa. No way. No way. I came up here, you cannot crap out on me now. 1228 01:08:47,366 --> 01:08:49,322 One song. Anything will be great. 1229 01:08:49,618 --> 01:08:51,336 But listen, you're gonna laugh at me. 1230 01:08:51,579 --> 01:08:53,013 - You think so ? - Yes. 1231 01:08:53,290 --> 01:08:55,201 I doubt it. 1232 01:08:58,044 --> 01:08:59,397 Okay. 1233 01:08:59,629 --> 01:09:01,904 What do you want to hear ? I have... 1234 01:09:02,174 --> 01:09:04,405 I have three songs in English. 1235 01:09:04,677 --> 01:09:05,996 One's about my cat... 1236 01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:10,132 ... one's about my ex-boyfriend... Well, ex-ex-boyfriend... 1237 01:09:10,474 --> 01:09:12,863 ... and there's one about... 1238 01:09:13,351 --> 01:09:16,583 Well, it's just a little waltz. 1239 01:09:16,898 --> 01:09:18,934 A waltz ? Yeah. 1240 01:09:19,233 --> 01:09:21,267 - Play the waltz. - Right. 1241 01:09:21,567 --> 01:09:23,876 I haven't played it in a while. You sure ? 1242 01:09:27,324 --> 01:09:28,803 Okay. 1243 01:09:29,618 --> 01:09:31,813 All right, the waltz. 1244 01:09:44,132 --> 01:09:48,444 Let me sing you a waltz 1245 01:09:48,805 --> 01:09:53,356 Out of nowhere, out of my thoughts 1246 01:09:53,726 --> 01:09:58,082 Let me sing you a waltz 1247 01:09:58,438 --> 01:10:02,148 About this one-night stand 1248 01:10:03,402 --> 01:10:08,872 You were, for me, that night 1249 01:10:09,281 --> 01:10:14,959 Everything I always dreamt of in life 1250 01:10:15,372 --> 01:10:18,761 But now you're gone 1251 01:10:19,083 --> 01:10:23,157 You are far-gone 1252 01:10:24,339 --> 01:10:28,810 All the way to your island of rain 1253 01:10:29,177 --> 01:10:34,810 It was, for you, just a one-night thing 1254 01:10:35,226 --> 01:10:38,059 But you were much more to me 1255 01:10:38,396 --> 01:10:40,989 Just so you know 1256 01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:45,028 I don't care what they say 1257 01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:50,074 I know what you meant For me that day 1258 01:10:50,448 --> 01:10:55,078 I just want another try 1259 01:10:55,453 --> 01:11:00,244 I just want another night 1260 01:11:01,709 --> 01:11:07,421 Even if it doesn't seem quite right 1261 01:11:07,883 --> 01:11:11,717 You meant, for me, much more 1262 01:11:12,053 --> 01:11:16,205 Than anyone I've met before 1263 01:11:16,558 --> 01:11:22,634 One single night with you, little Jesse 1264 01:11:23,065 --> 01:11:27,979 Is worth a thousand with anybody 1265 01:11:29,237 --> 01:11:32,469 I have no bitterness, my sweet 1266 01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:37,817 I'll never forget this one-night thing 1267 01:11:38,204 --> 01:11:44,075 Even tomorrow, in other arms 1268 01:11:44,503 --> 01:11:50,293 My heart will stay yours until I die 1269 01:11:54,721 --> 01:11:59,317 Let me sing you a waltz 1270 01:11:59,684 --> 01:12:04,520 Out of nowhere, out of my blues 1271 01:12:04,899 --> 01:12:09,653 Let me sing you a waltz 1272 01:12:10,028 --> 01:12:15,023 About this lovely one-night stand 1273 01:12:32,341 --> 01:12:35,811 - No, one more ! Please, please. - No ! It was our deal. 1274 01:12:36,178 --> 01:12:38,534 One... One song. No, no, no. 1275 01:12:38,849 --> 01:12:41,283 You can have your tea and then... 1276 01:12:46,815 --> 01:12:49,091 - All right, let me ask you one question. - What ? 1277 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,511 Do you just plug that name in for every guy that comes up here ? 1278 01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:54,512 Yes, of course. 1279 01:12:54,739 --> 01:12:58,652 What do you think, that I wrote the song about you ? Are you nuts ? 1280 01:13:03,207 --> 01:13:05,480 Is this you ? Little cross-eyed Céline ? 1281 01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:08,217 - Yes. That's funny. - Cute. 1282 01:13:09,712 --> 01:13:12,989 - Is that your grandmother ? - Yeah. 1283 01:13:14,885 --> 01:13:16,875 Oh, wow. 1284 01:13:17,344 --> 01:13:20,302 - You want some honey ? - Yeah, sure. 1285 01:14:10,107 --> 01:14:12,337 Did you ever see Nina Simone in concert ? 1286 01:14:12,609 --> 01:14:15,043 No, I never did. I can't believe she's gone. 1287 01:14:15,487 --> 01:14:16,920 I know, it's so sad. 1288 01:14:18,116 --> 01:14:19,515 Thanks. 1289 01:14:19,742 --> 01:14:21,653 It's hot. 1290 01:14:23,829 --> 01:14:26,548 I saw her twice in concert. 1291 01:14:27,290 --> 01:14:29,486 She was so great. 1292 01:14:29,794 --> 01:14:32,672 That's one of my favorite songs of hers. 1293 01:14:48,644 --> 01:14:49,918 She was so great. 1294 01:14:51,898 --> 01:14:54,093 She was so funny in concert too. 1295 01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:58,352 She would... She would be right in the middle of a song and then... 1296 01:14:58,697 --> 01:15:00,494 ... you know, stop... 1297 01:15:00,740 --> 01:15:04,654 ... and walk from the piano all the way to the edge of the stage. 1298 01:15:04,996 --> 01:15:07,226 Like, really slowly. 1299 01:15:10,292 --> 01:15:13,444 And she'd start talking to someone in the audience. 1300 01:15:13,755 --> 01:15:16,986 "Oh, yeah, baby. Oh, yeah. 1301 01:15:17,884 --> 01:15:20,032 I love you too. " 1302 01:15:20,551 --> 01:15:24,830 And then she'd walk back. Take her time, no hurry, you know. 1303 01:15:25,182 --> 01:15:28,538 She had that big, cute ass. 1304 01:15:28,852 --> 01:15:30,330 She would move. 1305 01:15:32,104 --> 01:15:36,735 And then she would go back to the piano and play some more, you know. 1306 01:15:38,445 --> 01:15:40,037 And then she would, I don't know... 1307 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,669 ... just start another song in the middle of another. 1308 01:15:42,949 --> 01:15:46,578 You know, like, stop again, and be like: 1309 01:15:46,912 --> 01:15:50,747 "You over there, can you move that fan. 1310 01:15:51,834 --> 01:15:53,869 You're cute. 1311 01:16:14,980 --> 01:16:16,891 Oh, yeah. " 1312 01:16:20,529 --> 01:16:24,647 Baby, you are gonna miss that plane. 1313 01:16:26,118 --> 01:16:27,949 I know.